Comment author: Gust 19 March 2015 06:03:39AM *  4 points [-]

Hi, and thanks for the awesome job! Will you keep a public record of changes you make to the book? I'm coordinating a translation effort, and that would be important to keep it in sync if you change the actual text, not just fix spelling and hyperlinking errors.

Edit: Our translation effort is for Portuguese only, and can be found at http://racionalidade.com.br/wiki .

Comment author: James_Miller 18 June 2014 06:30:51PM 3 points [-]

I asked judge Richard Posner (one of my dissertation advisers) if he would be willing to use lotteries as a judge and he said no, it would get him impeached.

Comment author: Gust 03 December 2014 01:36:54AM 1 point [-]

Interesting idea. Brazilian law explicitly admits lottery as a form of settling, but I'm not sure if that example with a penalty for not winning a lawsuit would be admissible.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 11 March 2014 05:11:55PM 1 point [-]

I was assuming a non-transhuman world in which the unnecessary connection between sadness and emotional thoughfulness, as well as sadness and system 2 replanning is a reality. Sorry I didn't point it out explicitly.

Comment author: Gust 11 March 2014 07:35:53PM 0 points [-]

I guess I misunderstood what you meant by "There are many ways to tackle this question, but I mean this in a homo economicus, not biased perspective." then. See my reply to ShardPhoenix.

Comment author: ShardPhoenix 11 March 2014 05:10:29AM 0 points [-]

I can think of some purposes this sadness might serve - eg signalling or self-punishment (for lack of past efforts) with TDT type considerations for why you wouldn't just skip it.

Comment author: Gust 11 March 2014 11:54:54AM 0 points [-]

He specifically said he's talking about "homo economicus"-"rational"-like decision. An agent like that should have no need to punish itself - by having a negative emotion - since the potential loss of utility itself is a compelling reason to take action beforehand. So self-punishing is out. How do you think sadness would serve as a signalling device, in this case?

Comment author: Gust 11 March 2014 03:46:37AM 5 points [-]

Not sure what you mean by "you SHOULD be sad when you miss an opportunity1"? What's the advantage of being sad instead of just shrugging and replanning?

Comment author: lukeprog 09 September 2013 05:42:03PM *  11 points [-]

Thanks for the critical review. Bermudez' book has been my standard recommendation on "cognitive science for beginners" since I summarized it here, despite its weaknesses on reductionism and taking Chinese Room too seriously and so on. (You suffered additional problems by not being a beginner.) See my comparison of Bermudez's textbook to some others here.

Since then, I've read The Cambridge Handbook of Cognitive Science. It has more detail than Bermudez's book but is also too philosophical (rather than scientific) in its coverage of various topics in cognitive science.

Two alternatives I haven't read: 1, 2.

If somebody can recommend a superior alternative, we'll be delighted to update the reading list!

Comment author: Gust 29 December 2013 12:02:12AM 0 points [-]

I've read Kolak's Cognitive Science, which you recomended in that textbook list post. I've enjoyed it a lot and it didn't feel like I needed some previous introductory reading. Any reason why you left it out now?

Comment author: lukeprog 22 December 2013 11:44:12PM *  31 points [-]

A note on how this post was produced:

Eliezer brain-dumped his thoughts on this open problem to Facebook, and replied to questions there for several hours. Then Robby spent time figuring out how to structure a series of posts that would more clearly explain the open problem, and wrote drafts of those posts. Several people, including Eliezer, commented heavily on various drafts until they reached a publishable form. Louie coordinates the project.

After discussion of the posts on Less Wrong, we may in some cases get someone to write up journal article expositions of some of the ideas in the posts.

The aim is to write up open problems in Friendly AI using as little Eliezer-time as possible. It seems to be working so far.

Comment author: Gust 23 December 2013 03:05:11AM 6 points [-]

Awesome project. I really liked the facebook discussion, and this post explains clearly and concretely a part that some people found confusing. Very well written. Congratulation, Robb.

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Comment author: [deleted] 07 April 2013 11:49:15PM 1 point [-]

Moved to discussion because I forgot to actually motivate the problem and show that this solved it.

I will write that up and re-post it some time.

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Comment author: Gust 20 June 2013 02:50:05AM 0 points [-]

This just feels really promising, although I can't say I've really followed it all (you've lost me a couple posts ago on the math, but that's my fault). I'm waiting eagerly for the re-post.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 23 February 2013 07:00:47AM *  1 point [-]

Thanks, that's what I was trying to say.

Comment author: Gust 22 April 2013 12:05:59PM 0 points [-]

All the content in the post just fell in place after I read Giles summary. Still a great post, though.

Comment author: Yvain 03 December 2011 07:22:22PM *  13 points [-]

WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE (GRAND FINALE)

Thales, Socrates, Zeno and Empedocles
'Naximander, 'Naximenes, Anaxagoras
Logos eros ontos noos, square of the hypotenuse
Echecrates, Archelaus, and Protagoras
Gorgias, Parmenides, Strato and Diogenes
Euclid writes his Elements, Pyrrho says he's not convinced
Aristotle, Plato, Cicero and Cato
Plotinus, Apollodorus, come on baby sing the chorus

[Chorus: We didn't start the fire!
It was always burning since the dawn of learning!
We didn't start the fire!
Each new sage and writer makes it even brighter!
]

Augustine, Boethius, Erigena Scotus
Avicenna, Avicebron, Al-Ghalazi
Gregory, St. Bernard, Heloise and Abelard
Terms exist, Eucharist, Christ's divinity
Necessary entities, Moses ben Maimonides
Anselm's ontological, Summa Theologica
Occam, Buridan, Aristotle's back again
Angels, free will, origin of evil!

[Chorus]

Renaissance, The Prince, Luther founds the Protestants
Earth goes round the sun, Calvin and Melancthon
Telescopes, More's high hopes, mystics and reformist popes
Galileo, Giordano Bruno

Cogito ergo sum, Francis Bacon, deism
Jesuits, Mersenne, Sweden has a Catholic queen
Hobbes, Locke, Cherbury, tangents, probability
Natural law, pumping air, Newton lays the heavens bare!

[Chorus]

Bishop Berkeley, Leibnitz, who discovered calculus?
Voltaire, David Hume, Malthus fears impending doom
Adam Smith, dogmatic slumber, greatest good for greatest number
Mill, Hegel, Kierkegaard, Darwin hits religion hard
Comte, James, Schopenhauer, Karl Marx, will to power
Here's a hand, plain as day, what else do I have to say!

[Chorus]

Freud, Jung, morning star, Russell's new Principia
Carnap wants concreteness, Godel's incompleteness
Tarski, Popper, dasein, late and early Wittgenstein
Ryle, Turing, Sartre thinks life is boring
Ayer, Quine, rights for blacks, trolley car is off its tracks
'Pologetics, new aesthetics, Rawls, Searle, cybernetics
Chomsky, Rorty, Nagel's bats, modal logic, brains in vats
Virtue ethics redux - preach it baby all is flux!

We didn't start the fire!
It was always burning, since the dawn of learning!
We didn't start the fire!
But the more we know, the brighter it will glow...
...and grow...and grow...and grow...

[Chorus]

Comment author: Gust 22 March 2013 03:35:21AM 2 points [-]

Necessary entities, Moses ben Maimonides Anselm's ontological, Summa Theologica I think these are switched.

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