Please taboo "creepy".

Large corporations are not really very like AIs at all. An Artificial Intelligence is an intelligence with a single utility function, whereas a company is a group of intelligences with many complex utility functions. I remain unconvinced that aggregating intelligences and applying the same terms is valid - it is, roughly speaking, like trying to apply chromodynamics to atoms and molecules. Maximising shareholder value is also not a simple problem to solve (if it were, the stock market would be a lot simpler!), especially since "shareholder value" is a very vague concept. In reality, large corporations almost never seek to maximise shareholder value (that is, in theory one might, but I can't actually imagine such a firm). The relevant terms to look up are "satisficing" and "principal-agent problem".

This rather spoils the idea of firms being intelligent - the term does not appear applicable (which is, I think, Eliezer's point).

Their belief or cowardly is not the problem. We must be concerned about their expected behavior. The rest is a commentary.

This is good. Great many people talk only in terms of what they think they should believe, but not what they behave -- this shows what they truly believe.

Races are clusters in DNA-space by James_G

It might be denotationally accurate that he is one of the most brilliant and accomplished White Nationalists, but I don't like the connotations.

In that case I recommend you make it possible for people to discuss said denotations without automatically being lumped with said connotations. See Eric Raymound's post on not ceding the truth to racists.

From casual reading, I don't get the impression that black middle class and upper class people get noticed by HBDists. Have I missed something?

Here is a statement of editorial policy from VDARE:

We've said repeatedly that VDARE.COM is not a White Nationalist webzine—but that we do publish White Nationalists because we regard their focus on white interests as at least as legitimate as Black Nationalism, Hispanic Nationalism, Zionism, etc…and as an inevitable development in the Brave New America created by mass immigration.

Based on this, I don't know if I'd classify VDARE as a hate group, but I would classify it as racist.

The disclaimer I've quoted comes before a piece written by Jared Taylor. VDARE goes on to describe him as "perhaps the most brilliant and accomplished figure among White Nationalists". This is a man who has written elsewhere: "Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilization—any kind of civilization—disappears. And in a crisis, civilization disappears overnight.” It might be denotationally accurate that he is one of the most brilliant and accomplished White Nationalists, but I don't like the connotations.

Wikipedia definition:

A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation or other designated sector of society.

I don't know about Eric S. Raymond, but yeah I'd describe John Derbyshire as racist. He describes himself as a (mild) racist and a (mild) white supremacist, incidentally. Do you think he is not racist?