Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 July 2010 11:12:59PM 0 points [-]

How heritable is reading?

Comment author: Hook 14 July 2010 12:43:44PM 2 points [-]

For the time being, I'll just consider literacy as a binary quality, leaving aside differences in ability. In developed countries, with literacy rates around 99%, literacy is probably some what heritable because that <1% cannot read because of some sort of learning defect with a heritable component.

In Mail, with a 26.2% literacy rate, literacy is not very heritable. The illiterate there are a consequence of lack of educational opportunities. I think that the situation we are in regarding the phenotype of "rational" is closer to the Mali scenario rather than the developed world scenario.

Comment author: Roko 13 July 2010 06:43:15PM 2 points [-]

remain firmly on the fence.

But presumably you have a prior probability distribution over the heritability parameter?

Comment author: Hook 13 July 2010 07:41:21PM 1 point [-]

For heritability, I think rationality is closer to reading than it is to intelligence.

Comment author: Hook 25 June 2010 05:59:31PM 2 points [-]

I would place 0 value on creating identical non-interacting copies of myself. However, I would place a negative value on creating copies of my loved ones who were suffering because I got blown up by a grenade. If Sly is using the same reasoning, I think he should charge me with attempted murder.

Comment author: mattnewport 28 April 2010 05:44:43PM 2 points [-]

Reading the information on creating a site a bit more it seems they will consider existing users with over 1000 'karma' who support the proposed new site as a factor in accepting proposals. I have over 1000 reputation on StackOverflow (the original site) and would be willing to support a proposal for a RationalityOverflow.

Comment author: Hook 28 April 2010 05:55:24PM 1 point [-]

That would be interesting. I'm not quite sure how it would work though. I guess examples of appropriate questions and inappropriate questions (as the proposal requires) would help to clarify the purpose of a RationalityOverflow.

Comment author: Hook 28 April 2010 01:49:34PM 1 point [-]

I think discussion of talent is generally lacking from rationality. Some clearly very irrational people are extremely successful. Sometimes it is due to luck, but even then it is usually the case that a large amount of talent was necessary to enter the lottery. With my particular combination of talents, no amount of learning the arts of rationality is going to turn me into a golfer like Tiger Woods or a media mogul like Rupert Murdoch.

The closest Roko's list comes to this sort of thing is microeconomics, which includes comparative advantage. Taking proper advantage of that comes down to having something valuable to trade, asking others for help and negotiation skills, the last two of which Morendil and Johnicholas have already pointed out are not commonly discussed here.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 24 May 2009 11:35:52AM 8 points [-]

More generally, it's easier to learn to accurately recognize successful performance of a professional skill than to achieve it yourself. At the very least, you can always taste the cookie, or check whether the program works, or read the prose, and judge how good it is. So, the process naturally starts with training a critic, by observing the successful work by others.

A critic, being a creature of human general intelligence, is able to compare more or less successful performance even at the meager levels of skill, to tell with at least some measure of correctness what choices you need to make at your own level.

This allows to guide you on the steady progression from inaptitude to expertise, every step of the way, a kind of reinforcement learning with the critic rewarding or punishing, with ever finer granularity and contextual generality in its critique.

Comment author: Hook 15 April 2010 08:26:51PM 3 points [-]

The worst cooking I have ever had came from a person who seems to lack any sort of ability to criticize food. It's not that she didn't have the skill to be a good cook. She simply could not tell when her cooking was bad. Being a good critic is certainly not sufficient, but it is necessary.

Comment author: Strange7 30 March 2010 08:28:58PM 5 points [-]

What would be the simplest credible way for someone to demonstrate that they were smarter than you?

Comment author: Hook 31 March 2010 04:42:03PM 0 points [-]

It's not really all that simple, and it's domain specific, but having someone take the keyboard while pair programming helped to show me that one person in particular was far smarter than me. I was in a situation where I was just trying to keep up enough to catch the (very) occasional error.

Comment author: RobinZ 26 March 2010 07:13:14PM 5 points [-]

I instantly distrusted the assertion (it falls in the general class of "other people are idiots"-theories, which is always more popular among the Internet geek crowd than they should be), and went to the linked article:

The Piagetians used what they called a clinical interview to determine which reasoning schemes a child had mastered. They posed questions of the children and then asked about how they arrived at their answers. As mentioned above, the elementary reasoning schemes (classification, etc) were what were being used.

Because each clinical interview took two or three hours, it was only possible to get data for a small number of children. Some psychologists decided to try to create a simple pencil and paper version which could then be administered to many children and thereby obtain data about broad classes of children.

This already suggests that the data should be noisy. I can think of at least two problems:

  1. The test only determines, at best, what methods the individual used to solve this particular problem - and, at worst, determines what methods the individual claims to have used to solve the problem.

  2. The accuracy of the test may be greatly reduced by the paper-and-pencil administration thereof. Any confusion which occurs by either the evaluators or takers will obscure the data.

Comment author: Hook 26 March 2010 08:34:03PM 0 points [-]

The 32% number does seem low to me. Even if the number is more like two thirds of adults are capable of abstract reasoning, that still leaves enough people to explain the pen on the moon result.

Is compartmentalization applying concrete (and possibly incorrect?) reasoning to an area where the person making the accusation of compartmentalization thinks abstract reasoning should be used?

Comment author: Hook 26 March 2010 04:08:05PM *  2 points [-]

Someone posted a while back that only a third of adults are capable of abstract reasoning. I've had some trouble figuring out exactly it means to go through life without abstract reasoning. The "heavy boots" response is a good example.

Without abstract reasoning, it's not possible to form the kind of theories that would let you connect the behavior of a pen and an astronaut in a gravitational field. I agree that this is an example of lack of ability, not compartmentalization. Of course, scientists are capable of abstract reasoning, so its still possible to accuse them of compartmentalizing even after considering the survey results.

Comment author: Hook 24 March 2010 12:44:02PM *  2 points [-]

When we talk about the states of a microprocessor, what we care about are the contents of the registers, the cache, and the instructions in the pipeline. I'm not certain about the gigahertz level processors of today, but for the processors of 20 years ago, these states are completely stable in terms of changing the placement of one electron with non-relativistic energy levels.

Those processors operated at tens of megahertz. Are 100 Hz neurons so much more sensitive that the placement of a single electron has any effect on the mind states we care about?

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