Comment author: Icelus 24 September 2011 12:51:42AM 0 points [-]

Oh wow great minds. Just a few days ago I made this: http://groups.google.com/group/ai-ml-db-classes-ca

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Comment author: Icelus 22 September 2011 05:39:52AM 1 point [-]

One thing to keep in mind is that although many seem to be trying to kill it, sarcasm isn't dead and sometimes use of those "internetisms" is meant tongue-in-cheek (I think similar to how 'lower class' language/words/mannerisms sometimes are used by people that normally speak in a more 'upper class' way). Although happening upon an article by someone without reading any of their writing history could cause a person to not know it's in jest.

So you don't necessarily have to get as angry each time you see it.

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Comment author: MarkusRamikin 20 September 2011 04:11:48PM *  4 points [-]

Could someone please explain why this comment by rysade got downvoted while lukeprog got 9 upvotes for saying [what appears to me as] much the same thing? I am confused.

EDIT: Thank you for the answers.

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Comment author: Icelus 22 September 2011 05:33:00AM 1 point [-]

Chances are it's the halo effect, but one other (admittedly less-likely) explanation is the hope by people here that lukeprog is actively working on improving his writing (and therefore providing higher quality writing that those people will then read) and they want to encourage his effort.

At least that's what I'd come up with as an explanation if I was asked to assume the people voting had thought their vote through.

Comment author: gwern 21 September 2011 11:37:05PM 4 points [-]

So much for technology helping us be more verifiably honest: http://hanson.gmu.edu/moretrue.pdf

Now it looks much more like an arms race.

Comment author: Icelus 22 September 2011 05:17:04AM 1 point [-]

I see it as a cat-and-mouse game, like the spam problem.

Or even better is the problem of Photoshopping things which people have come up with some I guess fairly good tool to counter:

“Error level analysis (ELA) works by intentionally resaving the image at a known error rate, such as 95%, and then computing the difference between the images. If there is virtually no change, then the cell has reached its local minima for error at that quality level. However, if there is a large amount of change, then the pixels are not at their local minima and are effectively original.”

From http://errorlevelanalysis.com/

Also people could be more skeptical of video from an unfamiliar source, as they must be getting with photos (magazines covers, especially US beauty-oriented ones) and movies (special effects getting better and better, the young Jeff Bridges in Tron 2.0 didn't fool me but I remember reading a comment or two about people saying they were fooled).

My link to the ELA page and inspiration about using one's judgment came from these not-so-technical articles that cam up in a quick Google search:

http://lifehacker.com/5644259/how-to-detect-a-photoshopped-image

http://www.ratchetup.com/eyes/2007/04/detecting_photo.html

Real time video face substitution (and the resulting "psychological hacks")

4 Icelus 21 September 2011 11:32PM

"Arturo Castro's real time face substitution technique"

Link/Videos: http://www.notcot.org/post/43233/

An HN comment I found very interesting:

Real-time virtual puppeting has been done in movies/television and research for a while now and yes, it can easily fool people.

A professor friend of mine Jeremy Bailenson at Stanford actually uses the Kinect to track facial movements and uses 3D models of others to create puppets in real-time. Even more interesting, he can morph your face with the person you're video conferencing with to create a feeling of commonality in them.

He actually wrote a book on it called Infinite Reality [1] which talks about all kinds of ways people will probably get manipulated in the future. He talks about things like mirroring movements (which he can do automatically in a video conference), looking into the eyes of every participant in a group video conference and other really interesting psychological hacks.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Reality-Avatars-Eternal-Revolution/dp/0061809500/

From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3022929

Hacker News discussion thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3022479

Comments (5)
Comment author: Icelus 03 July 2011 03:30:43AM 12 points [-]

I just want to say thank you for posting to /r/discussion.

This kind of posting workflow is something I've tried to encourage through advice on the IRC channel and hope more people adopt it because I see a lot of potential in it. Namely, people that might not be totally ready for front page posting can get good feedback, learn a lot, and then LW winds up with more high quality articles than it would have otherwise. The more quality writing for LW, the better.

This is what I'd like to see more of!

Comment author: CaveJohnson 01 July 2011 06:59:15AM 13 points [-]

While its application to gaming might be reasonable (a LW gaming forum for groups formed on the main LW site seems a very good idea), I feel discomforted by this development. Internet forums have their own dynamics and if this becomes a real unofficial shadow site this might create problems. Due the different structure of moderation it messes with LW's status as a well kept garden.

You simply can't replicate the effects of the dynamics of karma voting and the special demographic that visit LW without the ... dynamics of karma voting and the demographic that visits LW.

The discussion section already fulfils nearly all the positive functions of a forum with barley any downsides.

Comment author: Icelus 03 July 2011 03:21:20AM 0 points [-]

Seconding the dedication of the forum to gaming. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, a flood of gaming-only posts is something worth avoiding.

But I wonder if the /r/LessWrong on reddit would do. Subreddits seem nicer to me compared to the kind of shoddy proboards forum.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 01 July 2011 01:44:05PM 1 point [-]

First part? that's basically the idea yea.

The introducing part would only work for 5 min, then all the newbies and trolls and well meaning but crazy people would ruin it. Just like what happened to the IRC room.

Comment author: Icelus 03 July 2011 03:13:09AM 1 point [-]

I don't mean to stray offtopic too far, but the IRC room is actually pretty good. There have been two or three trolls but they haven't stuck around for more than a few days.

They might have left due to moderation, but if so I wasn't around to see it. If it was then I'd say that's a point in favor of non-LW.com things doing alright with vigilant moderation.

Comment author: Icelus 21 June 2011 11:31:05PM 0 points [-]

A quick google for more information about cryonics' illegality in Nederland, Colorado came up with this page that has "The Frozen Dead Guy Day Story":

http://www.nederlandchamber.org/events_fdgd-story.html

Even if cryonics is illegal there they seem to be fine promoting all the Frozen Dead Guy days (I assume for tourism and related things):

http://www.nederlandchamber.org/events_fdgd-home.html

Comment author: Icelus 21 June 2011 11:26:05PM 0 points [-]

For anyone interested in tracking the spread of stories like this, it hit Gizmodo which just links to the same prnewswire as this one:

http://gizmodo.com/5813821/scientists-create-first-memory-expansion-for-brain

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