Comment author: gjm 17 November 2015 01:22:09AM 3 points [-]

By reading what you wrote and seeing that the argument you're making makes no sense. Specifically:

  • I see no sense in which your thought experiment "has no time" but "appear[s] to have time".
  • No, constructing the rationals from the natural numbers doesn't require "defining a process", unless you understand that phrase so broadly that "defining a process" doesn't in the least suggest temporality.
  • Even if you had in fact described a thought experiment in which something appears to involve time but doesn't really, that obviously doesn't imply that time is an illusion.
    • I can describe a thought experiment in which something appears to involve sausages but doesn't really; does that mean sausages are an illusion?
Comment author: Inyuki 18 November 2015 12:04:28PM 0 points [-]

Yes, I do understand the phrase 'defining a process' so broadly as to not suggest temporality. Just like defining an order for a set in mathematics doesn't require the concept of time.

Indeed, just because we can show an example of how an illusion of time could be constructed in a system without time, would not seem to imply that our world is also such system.

So, yes, it doesn't makes sense, as long as you don't show that our perceived world is derived from a system with same properties. ( I'm referring to something like this: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/3ZdcQpJCPpE/Kwfh69V4Y24J ).

You can view everything as one thing.

Comment author: gjm 15 November 2015 01:04:20AM 1 point [-]

This does not, in fact, show that time is an illusion.

Comment author: Inyuki 16 November 2015 11:27:10PM 0 points [-]

How did you conclude with the 'in fact' ?

Comment author: entirelyuseless 03 November 2015 03:02:12PM 0 points [-]

How did you find out that time is an illusion?

Comment author: Inyuki 14 November 2015 03:31:04PM *  -2 points [-]

I made a thought experiment with a system that has no time, making it appear to have time. Take the sequence of natural numbers. It doesn't change, but it implies the existence of all positive rationals. This implication is instantaneous, but generating them requires defining a process. There is an eternity in an instance.

Comment author: turchin 01 November 2015 11:46:13PM 1 point [-]

No, it is not such evidence, but if any strong precognition will be proved to exist it would be evidence for simulation. And yes, we may be a property of the simulation or may be just brains in a vat which observe a simulation - its two different types of simulations.

Comment author: Inyuki 02 November 2015 07:32:48PM -2 points [-]

We know that time is an illusion. Is "illusion" not the same as "simulation"?

Comment author: Inyuki 01 November 2015 07:20:40PM *  -1 points [-]

Is inability to travel back in time - evidence that we're a simulation? Btw., wording "simulation in which we live" would imply that we're somehow separate from the simulation. It could well be that we ourselves do not exist without the simulation, and are merely the properties of simulation, - simulated beings.

Comment author: Inyuki 12 October 2015 08:21:36PM *  -1 points [-]

Great. I didn't read the book yet, but where I think we fail the most, is underestimating the investment into new technologies. It is often through new technologies that we can solve a problem at large, and often, to develop these new technologies may require much less than buying the existing technology solutions in bulk,... if we could be just a little more creative in our altruism. So, I would like to propose another term: Effectively Creative Altruism (ECA).

ECA would rely thinking how to solve a problem once and for all, and not in some isolated case. For example, an effectively creative thinker who is strongly upset about the harm that mosquitoes transmitting malaria do, would tend to come up with more general solutions, like genetically modified mosquitoes, that pass on deadly genes, and destroy them all.

An ECA thinker would, instead of seeing the simple numbers of how much investment saves how many lives according to current best statistics, would consider, what technology under development would save many more lives, if it received the little money it needs to get developed and scaled.

For example, how much do we need until we can mass-produce and introduce use the paper microscopes.

While a simple Effective Altruist relies on well-known statistics, an Effectively Creative Altruist would rely on as-of-yet unrejected hypotheses that follow from well-founded creative reasoning, and donating for such innovation, and that require that little bit of financial support and effort to verify.

My point is -- we should not reject great ideas, because they have no statistical evidence yet.

Comment author: Inyuki 03 October 2015 12:49:13PM *  0 points [-]

It is sufficient to define your self precisely and concisely, and preserve that definition.

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 October 2015 10:41:55AM 0 points [-]

infty is not an English word

It's an abbreviation of the English infinity and most people won't easily grasp it. Companies like Amazon and Google on the other hand have names that are a lot more neutral.

Comment author: Inyuki 03 October 2015 12:38:45PM *  0 points [-]
  1. Domain name is not primary marketing channel.
  2. Our preferred target audience will understand.
  3. Domain name reflects our philosophy. It aims to emphasize:

. infinite love, .. long-term strategy, ... cultural neutrality.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 October 2015 03:27:51PM 0 points [-]

infty seems to me very strongly culture driven. You likely need to spell it out for most people to remember.

In general it's better to optimize for effectiveness than to try do everything and the kitchen sink.

Comment author: Inyuki 02 October 2015 10:24:04PM *  0 points [-]

infty is not an English word, it is just a sequence of latin symbols, which are used in mathematical (LaTeX) texts to write lemniscate, meaning infinity, which is a mathematical concept.

If you come up with interesting truly culturally neutral name though, I'd love to know :)

In response to The Infinity Project
Comment author: username2 01 October 2015 07:31:32PM 0 points [-]

But ideas are not a scarce resource, anyone can easily copy them. Even if you created good ideas, why would anyone pay anything? Unless you patent your patentable ideas I don't think this system can work.

Comment author: Inyuki 01 October 2015 08:26:27PM 0 points [-]

"Unless you patent your patentable ideas I don't think this system can work."

If something won't work in the U.S., or E.U., because it is patented, it will work in China, or in bitspace...

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