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Comment author: fubarobfusco 31 December 2016 08:46:53PM 3 points [-]

As with "violence" itself, it seems like some uses of "bullying" strike me as being somewhat metaphorical rather than literal; but the folks using it those ways may not agree.

That said, my experience in school was that physical violence and "word stuff" could be combined arms in an effort to create misery or to drive someone away: perpetrators could use physical harm when they expected to get away with it; aggressive posturing (e.g. miming a punch) to remind the victim of the possibility of physical harm; and verbal attacks when they expected to get away with those.

Comment author: Ixiel 02 January 2017 12:23:55AM 0 points [-]

Metaphor makes sense; I'dn't thought of that. Thanks!

Comment author: Error 29 December 2016 06:41:47AM *  7 points [-]

The dynamic I match it to is "being mean for its own sake, to a specific individual, over an extended period of time, in an environment where they can't get away from their tormentor(s)." The social equivalent of a cat playing with a mouse it's caught.

N=1 for this interpretation, and it may not be quite necessary or sufficient even by my own lights.

Edit: A more succinct definition might be: "Bullying: persistent, targeted cruelty."

Comment author: Ixiel 02 January 2017 12:22:07AM 0 points [-]

Thanks! That accords with what people have said and with reason better than the former reigning champion.

Sorry for delay; was at a wedding. When I start typing comments on my phone the submit button disappears, so I can only comment from my computer, and I'm trying to avoid thumbs until they fix the asymmetry.

Comment author: Ixiel 29 December 2016 01:37:36AM 0 points [-]

How do folks use the term "bullying" these days? (links to dictionaries will be ignored)

When I was a kid it was simple: child on child violence. Then people started using it for just word stuff without real physical harm, then for adults, then with an implication of warranting the enforcement of authorities to stop...

I get the impression it's currently either used as "being mean in any sense one could perceive" broadly or "being mean in a way we should get people with some form of authority to force people to stop" but I don't know which, or which is closer, and the ambiguity is enough to change real meaning.

Comment author: Lumifer 14 December 2016 03:42:26PM 1 point [-]

I would expect there to be a significant city / country divide. People in the country are more tied to natural daylight and tend to rise early (and so go to bed early). People in cities tend to go to bed late (because all the fun stuff happens in the evening / night) and rise late.

Comment author: Ixiel 14 December 2016 06:41:02PM 0 points [-]

It appears so. I sometimes sleep past sunrise since retiring, but I almost never did when I worked at the bank.

All in all, mission success, priors updated :)

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 13 December 2016 11:23:40PM 2 points [-]

After 23 is extremely late?

Comment author: Ixiel 14 December 2016 11:51:24AM 0 points [-]

To me, yes. I don't personally know many adults who stay up into the double digits more than occasionally, but it was brought to my attention that does not exactly mirror the global situation.

Comment author: satt 14 December 2016 12:24:15AM 1 point [-]

Might want to clarify whether you literally mean school by "school", or school & university. In context I'm guessing the first?

Comment author: Ixiel 14 December 2016 11:49:54AM *  1 point [-]

Meant college, if one went to college, and whatever schooling one had if not.

College kids staying up into the double digits every night for parties and/or homework is not really what I was wondering about.

Comment author: Ixiel 13 December 2016 06:02:55PM 1 point [-]

Of people who are more than two years out of school: What was your average bed time last week?

I've heard more grown adults stay up extremely late than I'd assumed. First time trying to do a poll; there may well be errors.


Comment author: Ixiel 02 December 2016 02:03:38PM *  0 points [-]

Oops, solved

Comment author: Ixiel 02 December 2016 02:02:22AM 1 point [-]

If only we could concurrently disable comments that detract from the reader ;) Any estimate how long until this is fixed?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 November 2016 06:52:57PM 2 points [-]

I still don't understand why do you think they are different. You take the same ground coffee, you put some into a filter in a brewing basket and you get "brewed" coffee, you put some into a sealed foiled container which will get punctured by a coffee machine and you get "pod" coffee.

I could understand a question about the difference between brewed coffee and espresso since in that case the extraction process is different, but for Keurig pods I can see no reason for a difference to exist.

Comment author: Ixiel 14 November 2016 07:42:00PM 0 points [-]

I was not aware of the pod making process. I thought there was opportunity for something to be lost in the process, like how pepper is stronger freshly ground &c.

I'd still read a study, but that updates my baseline probabilities. Thanks!

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