Comment author: gwern 22 August 2012 12:23:56AM 0 points [-]

Before polyphasic sleeping I didn't have enough time to do spaced repetition :)

Oh well.

Do you want an introduction to the organisers of that effort?

Nah; my advice would be simply to start spaced repetition in advance, and look into getting a Zeo for recording sleep data. Not complex, but also not advice they're likely to take.

Comment author: JGWeissman 22 August 2012 01:39:02AM 1 point [-]

I think they are likely to take your advice, and I would encourage them to do so.

I myself plan to adapt to polyphasic starting September 7th, and would interested in any tests you think I should do.

Comment author: matt 21 August 2012 10:11:22PM 1 point [-]

I'd point out that being a polyphasic sleeper is a major confound here

Agreed.

… we all know that sleep is necessary for learning & long-term memory formation...

With some sleep phases more important than others. High quality evidence is thin on the ground here, but what is available says I'm getting a normal amount of REM and slow wave sleep, and nearly none of the other phases. Wiki (and other sources I've found) suggest that those are the sleep phases important in memory formation. (Note some studies listed on that wiki page have found napping to improve memory - my schedule gives me REM naps during the day (which is right at the top of the list of my super powers).)
[Lots of speculation here ↑. Available data below.]

Incidentally, do you do spaced repetition? I and Wozniak would be interested in your statistics/database if you started it before the polyphasic sleeping.

Before polyphasic sleeping I didn't have enough time to do spaced repetition :)
[That was the available data - sorry about that.]

There are moves afoot to organise the several July minicampers who plan to try a polyphasic schedule to gather before and after data. Do you want an introduction to the organisers of that effort?

Comment author: JGWeissman 21 August 2012 10:40:12PM 0 points [-]

There are moves afoot to organise the several July minicampers who plan to try a polyphasic schedule to gather before and after data. Do you want an introduction to the organisers of that effort?

I have emailed them to point them at this thread.

Comment author: JGWeissman 21 August 2012 05:02:45PM 2 points [-]

I think this game is easier with fewer clickers, as behavior shaping requires that you stop reinforcing the already learned aspects of the behavior so new aspects can be added on, and when lots of people have clickers, it takes longer for everyone to realize when they should stop clicking. 5 should be plenty.

Comment author: advancedatheist 21 August 2012 04:10:06PM 11 points [-]

I don't know about CI's due diligence. As the secretary of the Society for Venturism, which has the ability to raise money for Miss Suozzi's suspension, I can confirm that we've pursued our end of checking out her story.

We helped out in getting William O'Rights cryosuspended a few years ago, for example:

http://www.cryonics.org/reports/CI93.html

One of our directors has interviewed Miss Suozzi, and she may have a article about her written up soon which we'll post on the Venturists' website:

http://venturist.info/

Comment author: JGWeissman 21 August 2012 04:44:51PM 6 points [-]

Do you have any plans to manage a donation fund for her?

Comment author: [deleted] 20 August 2012 04:16:13AM 5 points [-]

I'm not completely irrational. The primary roadblock is not my paperwork allergy (which is admittedly intense) but the fact that I like to completely think through major decisions. My financial situation is unlike most people's, and insurance may not be optimal for me. While researching Kim's options, I looked at Alcor's funding methods closely for the first time, and a trust may be best for me. I try to collect other data, like this found today. Then it all goes into my brain, I heavily weight whatever Luke thinks, and bam - decision. Then I procrastinate on paperwork.

Comment author: JGWeissman 20 August 2012 03:25:25PM 1 point [-]

Then I procrastinate on paperwork.

LOL

I think I will have to trust Luke to make sure you get going on the paper work after you make your decision.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 August 2012 11:56:04PM *  15 points [-]

Hi Kim, I'm Stephan. Your story hit me harder than probably anyone else here - I'm 29, I intend to sign up for cryonics in the next few years, and glioblastoma multiforme has killed two of my ancestors: my maternal grandmother when I was very young, and my dad in 2010. If I were diagnosed with GBM now, much less at 23, I'd be mewling like a kitten in terror. I am truly sorry to hear of the shitty hand that nature has dealt you.

I will donate $5,000 when CI manages a fund for you (like JGWeissman said).

While some people have been offering you terrible "advice" on Reddit, I swear that this is completely different - I want to point out two important things that you may have missed. (Obviously, you haven't had a ton of time to look into your options here!)

  • CI's fee structure is confusing. I've been looking at Alcor, so I'm not very familiar with CI, but you appear to have created a Yearly membership ($75 one-time initiation fee, plus $120 per-year membership). With this membership, you need $35,000 for cryopreservation. There's another kind of membership, the Lifetime membership. That has a $0 initiation fee and a $1,250 one-time membership fee, after which cryopreservation is $28,000.

The Yearly membership makes sense for people who can't scrape together $1,250 at the beginning. But for your purposes, the Yearly membership is significantly more expensive.

The good news is that you can reduce the amount you'll need to raise from $35,195 to $29,250: "Yearly Membership members may switch to Lifetime Membership at any time, by paying the $1,250 Lifetime membership fee. If Yearly Member decides to covert to a Lifetime Membership, all Yearly Membership payments paid in the year prior to the conversion date can be counted toward the one-time Lifetime Membership fee of $1,250.00. This means that the $75.00 Initiation Fee can only be applied to the Lifetime Membership fee during the first year of Yearly Membership."

  • Unlike Alcor, CI's basic membership doesn't include "Standby" - CI presents it as a significantly more expensive feature that you can add for $88,000 (in fact, you must set it up with a separate organization, Suspended Animation). CI has a pros/cons page about this. Alcor's $80,000 neurocryopreservation includes Standby. If your fundraising is wildly successful, you should definitely consider it.
Comment author: JGWeissman 20 August 2012 01:52:04AM 6 points [-]

I intend to sign up for cryonics in the next few years

Why not sign up now? To get started, just fill out this form and Rudi Hoffman will find insurance policies for you and walk you through the rest of the process. (You have clearly put some research into this, so if you have some other path, take it, but "the next few years" is too vague of a time frame for you to ever decide "now is the time to do it".)

Comment author: Xachariah 20 August 2012 01:22:11AM 8 points [-]

I assume the whole point was to create a compliance ladder (aka yes ladder). It's the same technique used to sell cars, close business deals, or seduce others. It's at least as old as Dale Carnegie's "How to Win friends...etc", and probably older than English.

A single 'no' breaks the pattern just as drastically as a single non-conformist destroys the Asch conformity experiment. If he wanted to find out true answers, a control question would be useful. But if he wanted her to actually sign up for cryonics, an unbroken chain of 'yes' would be essential.

Comment author: JGWeissman 20 August 2012 01:38:30AM 6 points [-]

The point was to establish that she really did want to sign up for cryonics. It wouldn't be a big surprise to me if getting that "Yes" sequence is a way to influence people, but it's not what I was going for. I had previously done this on a room full of people, without going through the "Yes" chain, and whatever influences there were from me addressing a group or whatever, people who would answer "no" to some of those questions did decide not to fill out the form.

I am not trying to trick people into signing up for cryonics. I am trying get those who think they should be signed up to actually do it.

Comment author: shminux 19 August 2012 09:49:56PM 1 point [-]

I suspect that I can probably borrow enough against a regular life insurance if and when the time comes.

Comment author: JGWeissman 19 August 2012 10:01:02PM *  1 point [-]

Interesting strategy. It would be a good idea to validate this possibility now rather than when you suddenly need it.

(ETA: I am confused by the parent being downvoted. I don't think it is effective to punish people for honestly answering questions.)

Comment author: dblch 19 August 2012 05:46:14PM 46 points [-]

Hey guys, you may know me as pizzarules1000, but I want to formally introduce myself to the community. My name is Kim Suozzi. Here's a link to my Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/kimsuozzi), a video I made today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW3peOK1X9E), and Twitter, which you might enjoy (https://twitter.com/dblchb). I'd be happy to upload some documents confirming my identity/that I have cancer. I'll be at Duke tomorrow and can have my medical records sent to whomever. I also could upload a pathology report today, or have one of my doctors email you guys a document confirming my condition/treatment. I always have my driver license to show you as well. I just made a payment to CI (http://imgur.com/VVdoU) and asked them if they could help with handling the fund. I don't blame you for wanting to be careful.

Anyway, now that I have all of that out of the way (sort of), I want to express how deeply I appreciate everyone's support so far in donating, spreading my story, and otherwise advocating for me. I'm so glad that there's this robust community of intelligent and compassionate people that have come to my aid. As much as it sucks to die now, I'm goddamned lucky to live in the place and time that I do. You guys are giving me hope that I can achieve my goal. Again, it's hard to describe how much that means to me; people like you are offering me the most peace that can feasibly be found with knowledge that I'm going to die.

Comment author: JGWeissman 19 August 2012 08:17:17PM *  6 points [-]

Welcome.

I plan to donate when CI manages a fund. I appreciate your understanding that I want to be careful. (And set up the right incentives for future cases. I'm pretty confident you are legit.) (ETA: There is now a fund set up by the Society for Venturism, and I have made my donation through them.)

You had mentioned on your Reddit post that your boyfriend is supportive of your decision to pursue cryonics. Is he interested in cryonics for himself? Cryonics is much more affordable when you set things up when you are young and healthy, he may be able to do it on his own. I have been figuring out ways to get interested people to actually do this (and it turns it to be really easy), and I'm sorry I didn't figure this out and meet you earlier, when you were thinking about cryonics but not yet diagnosed. You actually inspired me to post about that now instead of waiting to see how many people I got to start made it through the whole process.

Comment author: shminux 19 August 2012 07:37:51PM 3 points [-]

Not going to donate myself (makes no sense unless I set up my own cryo plans first), but I'll be quite happy for you if you reach your goal of $35k or so charged by CI. Good luck!

Comment author: JGWeissman 19 August 2012 07:58:20PM 1 point [-]

(makes no sense unless I set up my own cryo plans first)

Do you want to set up your own cryo plans?

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