Comment author: RichardKennaway 27 October 2014 08:47:13PM *  21 points [-]

Nine of the questions ask which of various options you "identify with": country, race, gender, political category, moral philosophy, political category (subdivided), effective altruism, gender again, and meta-ethics. I am unclear about this concept, and for the purpose of making a choice, mentally replaced it by respectively "reside in long-term", "are", "are", "believe", etc. Would such rephrasings have changed anyone's answers to any of the questions?

"Identify with" reminds me of the Discworld's Captain Carrot Ironfoundersson, who is a six-foot-six human who "identifies as" a dwarf, and who is accepted as such by the dwarves, even though everyone, including him, knows he's human. I don't know Terry Pratchett's thinking behind the character, but Carrot strikes me as a reductio ad absurdum of the concept.

Comment author: JohnnyCat 04 November 2014 04:02:06AM 2 points [-]

"Identifying with" something or "Identifying As" something has an explicit meaning to me, which is that it is something I would call myself. Some of this may come from training and industry I'm in, but it's what you think of yourself as.

For instance, someone who doodles occasionally may or may not identify "as an artist", but anyone who paints professionally almost certainly identifies as an artist. Someone who paints regularly as a hobby probably identifies as an artist; the doodler may be more idle about it and not really think of it as being an essential quality of self: It is something that person does, not something that person is.

From such lines of thinking come statements such as, "Ich bin ein Berliner." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner

Comment author: ChristianKl 27 October 2014 04:53:09PM 11 points [-]

People who frequently play chess are chess players. People who frequently spent time on LW can be seen as LWers. With >1000 karma you simply fit in that category.

Comment author: JohnnyCat 04 November 2014 03:33:45AM 1 point [-]

Undoubtedly a point of controversy.

Examples: - In some societies, a great many people play games, if only mobile/phone/web games. Yet only a fraction of them would "identify as gamers". - Birth genders vs. "identification".

Or, myself: I identify as an LWer but only made an account today, and certainly haven't yet finished all of the sequences. I could feel like a bit of a poser, or worry others would call me "fake", but that's not actually relevant to my own self-identification.

Comment author: roryokane 27 October 2014 07:57:29PM *  29 points [-]

I took the survey. Though I can’t remember my SAT score, which I know I put on the last survey – I wish I had saved my answers last year.

Comment author: JohnnyCat 04 November 2014 03:24:19AM 7 points [-]

You are probably one of the few people who can identify an exact year when you forgot your SAT scores.

Comment author: JohnnyCat 04 November 2014 03:17:45AM *  26 points [-]

I identify with being "mixed race" far more than any individual race (which feels distinct to me from "other", but it was still the only choice for me).

I learned/confirmed non-zero answers about myself for questions I hadn't previously/strongly considered. This could be considered a "bonus" for taking the survey.

(Finished.)