Comment author: Kawoomba 14 March 2016 07:54:24PM 2 points [-]

Disclaimer: Only spent 20 minutes on this, so it might be incomplete, or you may already have addressed some of the following points:

At first glance, John Lowe authored 2 pubmed-listed papers on the topic.

The first of which in an open journal with no peer review (Med. Hypotheses) which has also published stuff on e.g. AIDS denialism. From his paper: "We propose that molecular biological methods can provide confirmatory or contradictory evidence of a genetic basis of euthyroid FS [Fibromyalgia Syndrome]." That's it. Proposing a hypothesis, not providing experimental evidence, paper ends.

The second paper was published in a somewhat controversial low impact journal (at least peer-reviewed). However, this apparently one and only peer reviewed and published paper actually contradicts the expected results, Lowe pulls off a somewhat convoluted move to save his hypothesis:

"TSH, FT3, or FT4 did not correlate with RMR [Resting Metabolic Rate] values. For two reasons, however, ITHR [Inadequate Thyroid Hormone Regulation] cannot be ruled out as the mechanism of FM [Fibromyalgia] patients’ lower RMRs: (1) TSH, FT3 , and FT4 levels have not been shown to reliably correlate with RMR values, and (2) these tests evaluate only pituitary-thyroid axis function and cannot rule out central HO and PRTH."

Yea ...

In addition, lots of crank signs: Lowe's review from 2008, along with his other writings, is "published" in a made-up "journal" which still lists him (from beyond the grave, apparently) as the editor-in-chief.

No peer review, pretending to be an actual journal, a plethora of commercial sites citing him and his research ... honi soit qui mal y pense!

Comment author: CellBioGuy 09 March 2016 08:19:41AM *  5 points [-]

AlphaGo system won first game. Not a go player, but the commentary I've seen suggests it was quite close until the very end.

Hypothesis 1: The cluster plays to maximize odds of a win, not magnitude of a win, and is exploiting a class of close wins that humans have a hard time with. Expect sweeping near wins.

Hypothesis 2: The cluster and the champion are indeed evenly matched. Expect wins and losses. May imply that the game saturates at high levels of analysis, and that there is no such thing as a 'superhuman' go player because the best humans hit the point of diminishing returns.

*EDIT: evidence accumulating in favor of #1.

*EDIT2: final results suggest something between the two.

Comment author: Kawoomba 09 March 2016 10:09:06AM 0 points [-]

I wonder if / how that win will affect estimates on the advent of AGI within the AI community.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 November 2015 10:33:02PM 1 point [-]

Please don't spam the same comment to different threads.

Comment author: Kawoomba 15 November 2015 08:56:01PM 1 point [-]

Please don't spam the same comment to different threads.

Comment author: Lumifer 05 October 2015 03:16:32PM 4 points [-]

That seems extremely dangerous.

LOL. Word inflation strikes again with a force of a million atomic bombs! X-)

Are you really arguing for keeping ideologically incorrect people barefoot and pregnant, lest they harm themselves with any tools they might acquire?

Comment author: Kawoomba 05 October 2015 04:04:21PM 1 point [-]

Hey! Hey. He. Careful there, a propos word inflation. It strikes with a force of no more than one thousand atom bombs.

Are you really arguing for keeping ideologically incorrect people barefoot and pregnant, lest they harm themselves with any tools they might acquire?

Sounds as good a reason as any!

maybe we should shut down LW

I'm not sure how much it counts, but I bet Chief Ramsay would've shut it down long ago. Betting is good, I've learned.

Comment author: Kawoomba 04 October 2015 05:18:59PM 1 point [-]

As seen in the first episode series Caprica, quoth Zoe Graystone:

"(...) the information being held in our heads is available in other databases. People leave more than footprints as they travel through life; medical scans, dna profiles, psych evaluations, school records, emails, recording, video, audio, cat scans, genetic typing, synaptic records, security cameras, test results, shopping records, talent shows, ball games, traffic tickets, restaurant bills, phone records, music lists, movie tickets, tv shows... even prescriptions for birth control."

I, for one, think that the meme-mix defining our identity in itself could capture (predict) our behavior in large parts, foregoing biographical minutiae. Bonesaw in Worm didn't need precise memories to recreate the Slaughterhouse Nine clones.

Many think we can zoom out from atoms to a connectome, why not zoom out from a connectome to the memes it implements?

Comment author: [deleted] 04 October 2015 03:17:40AM 0 points [-]

Go on and elaborate, but unless you can show some very thorough technical considerations, I just don't see how you're able to claim a mind has low Kolmogorov complexity.

Comment author: Kawoomba 04 October 2015 08:55:29AM *  1 point [-]

"Mind" is a high level concept, on a base level it is just a subset of specific physical structures. The precise arrangement of water molecules in a waterfall, over time, matches if not dwarves the KC of a mind.

That is, if you wanted to recreate precisely this or that waterfall as it precisely happened (with the orientation of each water molecule preserved with high fidelity), the strict computational complexity would be way higher than for a comparatively more ordered and static mind.

The data doesn't care what importance you ascribe to it. It's not as if, say, "power", automatically comes with "hard to describe computationally". On the contrary, allowing for a function to do arbitrary code changes is easier to implement that defining precise power limitations (see constraining an AI's utility function).

Then there's the sheer number of mind-phenomena, are you suggesting adding one by necessity increases complexity? In fact, removing one can increase it as well: If I were to describe a reality in which ceteris is paribus, with the exception of your mind not actually being a mind, then by removing a mind I would have increased overall complexity. Not even taking into account that there are plenty of mind-templates around already (implicitly, since KC, even though uncomputable, is optimal), and that for complexity considerations, adding another of a template isn't even adding much, necessarily (I'm aware that adding just a few bits already comes with a steep penalty, this comment isn't meant to be exhaustive). See also the alphabet example further on.

Then there's the illusion that somehow our universe is of low complexity just because the physical laws governing the transition between time-steps are simple. That is mistaken. If we just look at the laws, and start with a big bang that is not precisely informationally described, we get a multiverse host of possible universes with our universe not in the beginning, which goes counter the KC demands. You may say "I don't care, as long as our universe is somewhere in the output, that's fine". But then I propose an even simpler theory of everything: Output a long enough sequence of Pi, and you eventually get our universe somewhere down the line as well. So our universe's actual complexity is enourmous, down to atoms in a stone on a hill on some moon somewhere in the next galaxy. There exists a clear trade-off between explanatory power and conciseness. I used to link an old Hutter lecture on that latter topic a few years ago, I can dig it out if you'd like. (ETA: See for example the paragraph labeled "A" on page 6 in this paper of his).

The old argument that |"universe + mind"| > |"universe"| is simplistic and ill-applied. Unlike with probabilities, the sequence ABCDABCDABCDABCD can be less complex than ABCDABCDABCDABC.

The list goes on, if you want to focus on some aspect of it we can go into greater depth on that. Bottom line is, if there's a slam dunk case, I don't see it.

Comment author: Inyuki 28 September 2015 05:20:36PM *  0 points [-]

I did try to look. My browser said "Secure Connection Failed".

Ha:) Is that because we use self-signed SSL cert? Try again. We'll upgrade cert later.

So, all of hyper-equity can be controlled by 1,000 - 10,000 people?

No, as many people as there are problems (Goals). Potentially infinite.

Comment author: Kawoomba 28 September 2015 08:16:48PM 2 points [-]

If you're looking for gullible recruits, you've come to the wrong place.

Don't lease the Ferrari just yet.

Comment author: XFrequentist 12 September 2015 07:08:50PM 1 point [-]

I got waaay too far into this before I realized what you were doing... so well done!

Comment author: Kawoomba 12 September 2015 08:22:30PM 0 points [-]

What are you talking about?

Comment author: Vaniver 11 September 2015 08:50:08PM 2 points [-]

Light touch indeed. They fucked it up so badly

Eh... the story preceding that rebellion argues, if anything, that the Company tried too hard to bend to local practices, and the British public was outraged that "Clemency Canning" didn't want to come down like a hammer on the natives.

Comment author: Kawoomba 11 September 2015 08:58:46PM 0 points [-]

History can be all things to all people, like the shape of a cloud it's a canvas on which one can project nearly any narrative one fancies.

Comment author: btrettel 11 September 2015 08:19:35PM 0 points [-]

RationalWiki discusses a few:

Another problem of LessWrong is that its isolationism represents a self-made problem (unlike demographics). Despite intense philosophical speculation, the users tend towards a proud contempt of mainstream and ancient philosophy[39] and this then leads to them having to re-invent the wheel. When this tendency is coupled with the metaphors and parables that are central to LessWrong's attraction, it explains why they invent new terms for already existing concepts.[40] The compatibilism position on free will/determinism is called "requiredism"[41] on LessWrong, for example, and the continuum fallacy is relabeled "the fallacy of gray." The end result is a Seinfeldesque series of superfluous neologisms.

In my view, RationalWiki cherry picks certain LessWrongers to bolster their case. You can't really conclude that these people represent LessWrong as a whole. You can find plenty of discussion of the terminology issue here, for example, and the way RationalWiki presents things makes it sound like LessWrongers are ignorant. I find this sort of misrepresentation to be common at RationalWiki, unfortunately.

Comment author: Kawoomba 11 September 2015 08:56:48PM 15 points [-]

Their approach reduces to an anti-epistemic affect-heuristic, using the ugh-field they self-generate in a reverse affective death spiral (loosely based on our memeplex) as a semantic stopsign, when in fact the Kolmogorov distance to bridge the terminological inferential gap is but an epsilon.

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