Comment author: TheOtherDave 21 June 2012 01:11:35PM 0 points [-]

What is your opinion about the traditional Ganto's Axe koan?

Comment author: King_of_GAR_Johan 23 June 2012 05:51:02PM 0 points [-]

Could you clarify the mindset behind the question? I am not sure I have a meaningful opinion of it as I am not sure what is meant by the language in the second part of the koan.

Comment author: King_of_GAR_Johan 21 June 2012 12:25:04PM *  1 point [-]

I don't think either of the two koans are as instructive as desired.

  1. As previously pointed out, a cult can still teach useful information; noticing that you have learned useful information is not sufficient to differentiate a cult from a non-cult.

  2. It seems there are two different interpretations to the ending of the second koan: that the student understood that clothing doesn't matter, or that he didn't. It depends on whether the clown suit merely represents Robes 2.0 or whether it is counter-cultish behavior.

--- Robes 2.0: What is the point of the robes, then? If the student is questioning the point of the robes, the answer is not to say, "it doesn't matter; just focus on my teachings". Okay, then why not take off the robes? The question goes completely unaddressed. It's not like the master treated it as a teaching opportunity, where the whole point of the robes is for the student to question the robes. Or was that the point? In which case, the learning occurs more as a "ok, Master is full of shit" moment, rather than "aha I see that Master has taught another great lesson", which I think is less than ideal.

--- Counter-cultish: What are we supposed to take from this story? The student had a legitimate question which the master refused to answer, and instead solidified a mistaken impression on the student? Sounds like a real wise master.

Comment author: Brandon_Berg 07 January 2008 12:22:57AM 7 points [-]

Even from a creationist perspective, it doesn't make sense to attribute the similarities to coincidence. A better explanation would be deliberate code reuse.

Comment author: King_of_GAR_Johan 01 June 2012 03:11:53PM 0 points [-]

Actually, what exactly are the arguments/evidence that distinguish these two hypotheses? - Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor. - God tweaked the ape (or common ancestor) blueprint to create the human blueprint.

I'm pretty new at evolutionary biology so I don't really know... anyone want to point me in the right direction?