Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 07 December 2015 11:06:16PM *  2 points [-]

(Rather than start with the main point I'll follow your responses and conclude)

1 - word definitions. This was one of those that was not wrong, but unclear.

2 - another point that was kind of sketchy-looking. It wasn't directly wrong, but it looked overly simplified. You'll see why in a few points.

I'm guessing no more than the volume of the Universe divided by the cube of the Planck length

A better limit would be not more than 2 to the power of that. Hilbert space is very, very large.

3 - this seems to be going out of order.

Quantum Immortality means I will not experience death during that 10 minutes

Regular old Quantum Immortality takes as an axiom that you cannot experience death. If you could, then the whole thing falls to pieces.

As for the universe putting you in a safe place, well then, you are fortunate. How does this argument apply to people who die? Did they not have subjective experiences? What makes them different from you?

4 - the heart of the matter

Since my consciousness only collapses the universal wavefunction once every 1/10th second

This is seriously, majorly wrong, and the reason I complained about point 2. Your brain decoheres a zillion times per second. Your consciousness is far, far, far into the classical regime.

Observing does not cause collapse. Events which cause the wavefunction to split into dynamically separate parts do, and those happen at the same rate in a system regardless of how you cut it.

QI seems to predict that I would never fall asleep

Depends on how you formulate it, doesn't it? Anyway, arguing against regular QI does not argue for your variant.

QI is all about the timeless perspective because it requires looking at worlds splitting into other worlds from a perspective outside of time

That doesn't look like immortality to me. It looks like you dying eventually. You look at the history of your lifeline and it peters out, little by little, sometimes more at once than other times. Those decreases? Those are dying. The only way QI works is if you ignore the parts that died, and the only justification I've seen for doing that is by locking your viewpoint to your subjective experience. That's what allows you to discard any cases where you don't survive. If you're looking from a distance, you see a whole lot of dead you-s out there.

Comment author: Laszlo 11 December 2015 11:24:21AM 1 point [-]

As for the universe putting you in a safe place, well then, you are fortunate. How does this argument apply to people who die? Did they not have subjective experiences? What makes them different from you?

I believe the argument goes that they, too, are immortal... from their own perspective. Your consciousness traces its worldline, taking branches where you stay alive, and theirs does the same, but picking worlds where they stay alive. In other words, you can see them die, and they can see you die, but the consciousness, the qualia of the person who's supposedly dying is not there; it's gone down a different worldline.

I think that the theory is cute and quite seductive, but quite clearly wrong. The problem is, for example, brain damage: does quantum immortality allow you to experience Phineas Gage-type brain damage, or doesn't it?

Also, I've been blackout drunk in college, and if quantum immortality is a thing, it's not clear why my consciousness didn't trace a path through the universes where I wasn't blackout drunk. It was, after all, a loss of self, even if it was only temporary. The arguments QI uses for keeping you alive could be used equally easily to prove that you cannot become blackout drunk.

Comment author: Laszlo 23 August 2015 01:00:36PM 4 points [-]

Hello!

I first heard about LW through a SomethingAwful thread. Not the most auspicious of introductions, but when I read some of your material on my own instead of receiving it through the sneerfilter, I found myself interested. Futurology and cognitive biases are two topics that are near and dear to my heart, and I hope to pick up some new ideas and perhaps even new ways of thinking here. I've also had some thoughts about Friendly AI which I haven't seen discussed yet, and I'm excited to see what holes you guys can poke in my theories!