Study: Encouraging Obedience Considered Harmful

21 MBlume 14 May 2010 06:11PM

A while back I did a couple of posts on the care and feeding of young rationalists. Though it is not new, I recently found a truly excellent post on this topic, in Dale Mcgowan's blog, The Meming of Life. The post details a survey carried out on ordinary citizens of Hitler's Germany, searching for correlations between style of upbringing, and adult moral decisions. 

Everyday Germans of the Nazi period are the focus of a fascinating study discussed in the PBB seminars and in the Ethics chapter of Raising Freethinkers. For their book The Altruistic Personality, researchers Samuel and Pearl Oliner conducted over 700 interviews with survivors of Nazi-occupied Europe. Included were both “rescuers” (those who actively rescued victims of persecution) and “non-rescuers” (those who were either passive in the face of the persecution or actively involved in it). The study revealed interesting differences in the upbringing of the two groups — specifically the language and practices that parents used to teach their values.

Non-rescuers were 21 times more likely than rescuers to have been raised in families that emphasized obedience—being given rules that were to be followed without question—while rescuers were over three times more likely than non-rescuers to identify “reasoning” as an element of their moral education. “Explained,” the authors said, is the single most common word used by rescuers in describing their parents’ ways of talking about rules and ethical ideas.

For anyone interested in rational and ethical upbringing, I really cannot recommend  Meming of Life  strongly enough.

 

Q&A with Harpending and Cochran

26 MBlume 10 May 2010 11:01PM

Edit: Q&A is now closed. Thanks to everyone for participating, and thanks very much to Harpending and Cochran for their responses.

In response to Kaj's reviewHenry Harpending and Gregory Cochran, the authors of the The 10,000 Year Explosion, have agreed to a Q&A session with the Less Wrong community.

If you have any questions for either Harpending or Cochran, please reply to this post with a question addressed to one or both of them. Material for questions might be derived from their blog for the book which includes stories about hunting animals in Africa with an eye towards evolutionary implications (which rose to Jennifer's attention based on Steve Sailer's prior attention).

Please do not kibitz in this Q&A... instead go to the kibitzing area to talk about the Q&A session itself. Eventually, this post will be edited to note that the process has been closed, at which time there should be no new questions.

 

Jinnetic Engineering, by Richard Stallman

1 MBlume 28 April 2010 01:24AM

Thought the community might enjoy this:

Jinnetic Engineering

The Fundamental Question

43 MBlume 19 April 2010 04:09PM

It has been claimed on this site that the fundamental question of rationality is "What do you believe, and why do you believe it?".

A good question it is, but I claim there is another of equal importance. I ask you, Less Wrong...

What are you doing?

And why are you doing it?

"Put It To The Test"

12 MBlume 03 February 2010 11:09PM

Alt-rockers They Might Be Giants explain/advocate empiricism in a record aimed at young children.

continue reading »

Boksops -- Ancient Superintelligence?

-2 MBlume 30 December 2009 11:12AM

[...] before long the skull came to the attention of S. H. Haughton, one of the country’s few formally trained paleontologists. He reported his findings at a 1915 meeting of the Royal Society of South Africa. “The cranial capacity must have been very large,” he said, and “calculation by the method of Broca gives a minimum figure of 1,832 cc [cubic centimeters].” The Boskop skull, it would seem, housed a brain perhaps 25 percent or more larger than our own.

The idea that giant-brained people were not so long ago walking the dusty plains of South Africa was sufficiently shocking to draw in the luminaries back in England. Two of the most prominent anatomists of the day, both experts in the reconstruction of skulls, weighed in with opinions generally supportive of Haughton’s conclusions.

The Scottish scientist Robert Broom reported that “we get for the corrected cranial capacity of the Boskop skull the very remarkable figure of 1,980 cc.” Remarkable indeed: These measures say that the distance from Boskop to humans is greater than the distance between humans and their Homo erectus predecessors.

What Happened to the Hominids who were Smarter than Us?

I'm strongly inclined to defy the data -- true superintelligence should have just dominated our ancestors -- but given the expense of large skull size (primarily in difficult birthing) it also seems profoundly unlikely that a lineage would see expansion like this that wasn't buying them something mentally.

Do the 'unlucky' systematically underestimate high-variance strategies?

20 MBlume 12 October 2009 10:27PM

From the UK Telegraph:

A decade ago, I set out to investigate luck. I wanted to examine the impact on people's lives of chance opportunities, lucky breaks and being in the right place at the right time. After many experiments, I believe that I now understand why some people are luckier than others and that it is possible to become luckier.

To launch my study, I placed advertisements in national newspapers and magazines, asking for people who felt consistently lucky or unlucky to contact me. Over the years, 400 extraordinary men and women volunteered for my research from all walks of life: the youngest is an 18-year-old student, the oldest an 84-year-old retired accountant.

Be lucky -- it's an easy skill to learn

On reading the article, the takeaway message seems to be that the 'unlucky' systematically fail to take advantage of high-expected-but-low-median value opportunities.

LW Meetup Google Calendar

9 MBlume 07 October 2009 10:51PM

I've set up a calendar on Google to track future Less Wrong meetups. I've included links to view the calendar in a couple time zones, but note that if you add the calendar to your own google account, events should be shown in your usual time zone (if someone can confirm this for me, I'd appreciate it). I'll do my best to add any meetups posted to LW, but feel free to e-mail me if you don't see them.

Less Wrong Meetups: Pacific View
Less Wrong Meetups: Eastern View

Link for use in iCal or anything else supporting the ics format

Raw XML Version

'oy, girls on lw, want to get together some time?'

31 MBlume 02 October 2009 10:50AM

2:45:24 PM Katja Grace: The main thing that puts me off in online dating profiles is lack of ambition to save the world
2:45:35 PM Katja Grace: Or do anything much
2:48:03 PM Michael Blume: *nods*
2:48:07 PM Michael Blume: this is indeed a problem
2:57:55 PM Katja Grace: Maybe there is a dating site for smart ambitious nerds somewhere
2:58:25 PM Katja Grace: Need to set up lw extension perhaps
2:59:02 PM Michael Blume: haha, yes ^^
3:00:40 PM Katja Grace: Plenty of discussion on why few girls, how to get girls, nobody ever says 'oy, girls on lw, want to get together some time?'
3:01:14 PM Michael Blume: somebody really should say that
3:01:34 PM Michael Blume: hell, I'm tempted to just copy that IM into a top-level post and click 'submit'
3:01:48 PM Katja Grace: Haha dare you to

Regular NYC Meetups

8 MBlume 01 October 2009 12:44PM

Sayeth Jasen:

This is an excellent opportunity to announce that I recently organized an OB/LW discussion group that meets in NYC twice a month. We had been meeting sporadically ever since Robin's visit back in April. The regular meetings only started about a month ago and have been great fun. Here is the google group we've been using to organize them:

http://groups.google.com/group/overcomingbiasnyc

We meet every 2nd Saturday at 11:00am and every 4th Tuesday at 6:00pm at Georgia's Bake Shop (on the corner of 89th street and Broadway). The deal is that I show up every time and stay for at least two hours regardless of whether or not anyone else comes.

I've been meaning to post this for a while but I don't have enough Karma...

A couple thoughts:

  • We're trying to build a community here, and meetups are wonderful, wonderful things. I would recommend that you all follow Jasen's excellent example and see whether OB/LW meetups are happening in your area, and if not, what you can do about that. I'd even suggest an if-you-build-it-they-will-come mentality. We don't really know how many voiceless readers there are for each active commenter. Even if you know of no other LW commenters in your area, try making an announcement that you'll be at such-and-such a place and see what happens.
  • The karma system is all well and good, but if you have something of high, obvious value on your hands, like, say, regular LW meetups in a major city, you should feel absolutely free to pester one of us high-karma folk (we live in a convenient bar off to the side) to post it on your behalf. It seems plausible that there should also be a monthly thread in which low-karma folk can post these things as comments and high-karma folk can repost them as top-level posts. What say we?

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