Comment author: skeptical_lurker 04 October 2016 04:18:16PM 0 points [-]

If all it takes to ensure FAI is to instruct "henceforth, always do what humans mean, not what they say" then FAI is trivial.

Comment author: Manfred 04 October 2016 07:06:49PM *  3 points [-]

The AI has to do what humans mean (rather than e.g. not following your orders and just calculating more digits of pi) before you start talking at it, because you are relying on it interpreting that sentence how you meant it.

The hard part is not figuring out good-sounding words to say to an AI. The hard part is figuring out how to make an actual, genuine computer program that will do what you mean.

Comment author: Florian_Dietz 03 October 2016 08:22:13PM *  3 points [-]

Is there an effective way for a layman to get serious feedback on scientific theories?

I have a weird theory about physics. I know that my theory will most likely be wrong, but I expect that some of its ideas could be useful and it will be an interesting learning experience even in the worst case. Due to the prevalence of crackpots on the internet, nobody will spare it a glance on physics forums because it is assumed out of hand that I am one of the crazy people (to be fair, the theory does sound pretty unusual).

Comment author: Manfred 03 October 2016 09:59:41PM *  2 points [-]

It depends on your level of connection to current work. If you're genuinely doing something similar to something you've seen in some journal articles you've read, you can contact the authors of those journal articles and try to convince them to talk with you - probably via claiming some sort of reasonable result and asking politely.

On the other hand, you can always just ask about it in various places. Even if people think your idea is sure to be wrong they can still provide useful feedback. I'd be happy to hear you out, though if your "weird theory" isn't about condensed matter physics I'll be of limited expertise.

Comment author: Fluttershy 02 October 2016 12:40:42AM 4 points [-]

The most striking problem with this paper is how easy all of the tests of viability they used are to game. There are a bunch of simple tests you can do to check for viability, and it's fairly common for non-viable tissue to produce decent-looking results on at least a couple, if you do enough. (A couple of weeks ago, I was reading a paper by Fahy which described the presence of this effect in tissue slices.)

It may be worth pointing out that they only cooled the hearts to -3 C, as well.

Comment author: Manfred 02 October 2016 06:20:42PM *  1 point [-]

Yeah, -3 C was exactly as intended by the authors, since they were (supposedly) suppressing the freezing of water in the experimental group - much colder and the water in their experimental organs would have stopped being liquid :)

Comment author: Manfred 02 October 2016 06:14:24PM *  2 points [-]

Not relevant to cryonics. "Super-cooling" is not a neologism, it means that the water didn't freeze when they cooled the organs down to -3 degrees C. This is not extendable to lower temperatures.

Comment author: DataPacRat 26 September 2016 01:45:17PM 3 points [-]

Music to be resurrected to?

Assume that you are going to die, and some years later, be brought back to life. You have the opportunity to request, ahead of time, some of the details of the environment you will wake up in. What criteria would you use to select those details; and which particular details would meet those criteria?

For example, you might wish a piece of music to be played that is highly unlikely to be played in your hearing in any other circumstances, and is extremely recognizable, allowing you the opportunity to start psychologically dealing with your new circumstances before you even open your eyes. Or you may just want a favourite playlist going, to help reassure you. Or you may want to try to increase the odds that a particular piece survives until then. Or you may wish to lay the foundation for a practical joke, or a really irresistible one-liner.

Make your choice!

Comment author: Manfred 26 September 2016 04:58:00PM *  1 point [-]

Mahler's 2nd symphony, for reasons including the obvious.

Comment author: chron 23 September 2016 01:15:07AM 1 point [-]

And in that case U(++,-) doesn't imply that forcing people on the drug increases utility.

Comment author: Manfred 23 September 2016 05:40:05AM *  1 point [-]

It implies it only in combination with the false premise that peoples' actions accurately reflect the utility function we want to maximize.

Comment author: Manfred 21 September 2016 03:16:32AM *  7 points [-]

This is only true for simple systems - with more complications you can indeed sometimes deduce causal structure!

Suppose you have three variables: Utopamine conentration, smiling, and reported happiness. And further suppose that there is an independent noise source for each of these variables - causal nodes that we put in as a catch-all for fluctuations and external forcings that are hard to model.

If Utopamine is the root cause of both smiling and reported happiness, then the variation in happiness will be independent of the variation in smiling, conditional on the variation in Utopamine. But conditional on the variation in smiling, the variation in utopamine and reported happiness will still be correlated!

The AI can now narrow down the causal structure to 2, and perhaps it can even figure out the right one if there's some time lag in the response and it assumes that causation goes forward in time.

Comment author: Romashka 16 September 2016 05:57:10PM 0 points [-]

If much effort should be invested in the initial search for hypotheses/explanations, before they are weighed against each other, then how come there are apparently so few cases where more than two major hypotheses are proposed?

I mean, I don't know much about the history of physics, but I do remember being surprised by the (relatively) many models of the Structure of the Atom we heard about in chronological order. And there used to be lots more Trees of Life, back in the XIXth century. But I cannot, on the fly, think of crazy-but-who-knows things of today (well, except for the Search for Ancestors of Angiosperms, it just goes on).

Comment author: Manfred 18 September 2016 11:09:53AM 1 point [-]

How does this compare to your ability to think of major research questions in various subfields? It's possible that it's just harder to keep up with current research, either because keeping current is always hard or because there's more stuff you have to know now compared to the past. The examples I hear the most about in physics are models for particle physics beyond the standard model, macroscopic models of gravity and dark energy, and the gigantic muddle over how high temperature superconductivity works.

Comment author: Raiden 14 September 2016 03:48:04PM 1 point [-]

Can you explain why that's a misconception? Or at least point me to a source that explains it?

I've started working with neural networks lately and I don't know too much yet, but the idea that they recreate the generative process behind a system, at least implicitly, seems almost obvious. If I train a neural network on a simple linear function, the weights on the network will probably change to reflect the coefficients of that function. Does this not generalize?

Comment author: Manfred 14 September 2016 06:15:19PM 2 points [-]

Well, consider a neural net for distinguishing dogs from cats. This neural network might develop features that look like "dog-like eyes" and "cat-like eyes," which are pattern-matched across the image. Images with more activation on the first feature are claimed to be dogs and images with more activation on the second feature are claimed to be cats, along with input from many other features. This is fairly typical-sounding.

Now imagine how bonkers a neural net would have to be in order to reproduce the generative process behind the images! Leaving aside simulations of the early universe, our neural network should still have a solid understanding of the biology of dogs and cats, the different grooming and adornment practices, macroscopic physics and physiology that leads to poses, and the preferences of people taking and storing photographs.

Comment author: Gram_Stone 14 September 2016 04:12:50PM 5 points [-]

Eliezer has recommended that one read them twice. I found this helpful.

Comment author: Manfred 14 September 2016 05:21:32PM 3 points [-]

Yeah, I really didn't understand the metaethics sequence the first time, but now consider it to be a clear and important section. The difference was in my own ability to understand. I think this is a good reason to do rereading rather than notes or flashcards.

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