Comment author: CronoDAS 03 August 2013 04:48:25AM 2 points [-]

I like my relationships like I like my source code... open

That's really good.

Comment author: MixedNuts 04 August 2013 05:54:12PM -1 points [-]

I've heard this joke before I heard of the paper, and found it funny. I'm surprised nobody's come up with that one before.

Comment author: cody-bryce 02 August 2013 10:31:02PM 7 points [-]

There are no happy endings. Endings are the saddest part, So just give me a happy middle And a very happy start.

-Shel Silverstein

Comment author: MixedNuts 04 August 2013 05:31:52PM 8 points [-]

But but peak/end rule!

Comment author: DanArmak 03 August 2013 09:46:18AM 8 points [-]

I don't understand this rationality quote. Is it about fighting akrasia? Self-hacking to effectively saving money? It clearly describes a method that wouldn't actually work, and it could work as humour, but what does it mean as a rationality tale?

Comment author: MixedNuts 04 August 2013 05:28:41PM 10 points [-]

Betcha it'd work. I'm going to set a piece of candy in front of me, work for half an hour, and then put it back, at least once a day for a week.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 August 2013 06:27:31AM *  4 points [-]

Historically, most hackers have been not only men, but men of a sort of Mannie O’Kelly-Davis “git ‘er done” variety, and that’s beginning to change now, so new norms of behavior must be adopted in order to create a welcoming and inclusive community.

  • Jeff Read

I have a better idea. Let’s drive away people unwilling to adopt that “git’r'done” attitude with withering scorn, rather than waste our time pacifying tender-minded ninnies and grievance collectors. That way we might continue to actually, you know, get stuff done.

Eric Raymond

Comment author: MixedNuts 02 August 2013 09:36:12AM 12 points [-]

Empirically, heaping scorn on everyone and seeing who sticks around leads to lots of time wasted on flame wars.

Comment author: Tenoke 31 July 2013 05:05:12PM -1 points [-]

I know some basilisks, yes. Although, there is nothing I regard as actually dangerous. However, sharing things like this publicly is considered bad etiquette on LessWrong.

Comment author: MixedNuts 01 August 2013 09:58:35AM -1 points [-]

Can you send me yours? Please PM me here or on IRC. I already know the most famous one here.

Comment author: jimmy 07 July 2013 09:08:35PM *  1 point [-]

Well... It's hard to explain. I've never managed to "just tell" someone and have them pick it up - despite trying. I've always had to guide them through one so that they feel the difference between what they were doing and what I was getting at. I was mostly just pointing it out for the extra motivation to "come to terms with it" - so that if/when you do bump into the option, you know to take it.

If you think you can be the exception, here's my current hack at the problem

EDIT: My newer hack at the problem is mostly "just go read 'focusing' by Gendlin", and then maybe get back to that routine.

Also, I didn't actually create that routine - just that explanation of it. Credit goes to Joe Fobes for that. He knows his stuff when it comes to hypnosis and therapy and stuff.

Comment author: MixedNuts 08 July 2013 06:18:41AM 0 points [-]

Thanks! You're right, I don't get it. I do have questions, though:

  • How do you recognise success? I don't think I could distinguish it from giving up or going numb.
  • What do endpoints look like? Like, can I answer "I wish he wasn't going to die" with "Because then he won't be alive and that's bad, duh" or do I need to find some way to pick that apart?
  • How does looping back work? "Why do I wish he'd sign up for cryonics? Because if he doesn't he will die. I wish he wasn't going to die." works, but I don't know what to do with "Why am I even acknowledging things? Because jimmy said I'll be more effective at preventing things if I come to terms with them".
Comment author: fractalman 07 July 2013 07:34:59AM 13 points [-]

Our PLANET is mind-numbingly big. If you don’t believe me go to the grand canyon and look down. Did I say go to the grand canyon? Make that HIKE to the grand canyon from yellowstone national park. Still not convinced? ROW across the ocean to china. Bonus points if you can hit Japan without a gps.

So in a twisted sort of sense, the milky-way galaxy is less mind-bogglingly big, because our [or at least my] built-in distance-comprehension hardware shorts out so quickly when attempting to deal with the milky way galaxy we don't really even notice it and so we switch to rigorous numbers which do not have this short-circuiting problem.

Comment author: MixedNuts 08 July 2013 06:08:44AM 5 points [-]

It seems comprehensibly big. It would take between three and four years to walk around the Earth, walking for a sustainable number of hours at a reasonable pace every day, if you could walk around it in a straight line.

Comment author: jimmy 06 July 2013 08:22:22AM 4 points [-]

I meant beforehand - it's just easier real time if you don't have to deal with the "this can't happen!" impulse. Though if you find yourself in the midst of things without having it beforehand just put the emotional reaction off and be realistic. You just don't want to get overly panicked and deny the real danger level. By denying the danger level, you'll you'll rule out dangerous/costly options even if they're the right call. Ben Franklin apparently messed this one up.

Coming to terms with it isn't a happy process though, so people tend not to do it until they're hit in the face with it. Most people will find ways of not thinking about it by pretending they believe in heaven, or pretending they've accepted it being a couple common ones - sometimes pretending they don't care. It's certainly not a fun process - it's just that I think it's worth it anyway. Litany of Gendlin, and all that.

Comment author: MixedNuts 07 July 2013 02:05:26PM 0 points [-]

How does one go about doing that? I can tell whether I have a plan to prevent a bad thing or deal with its consequences, and whether I'm repressing thoughts of bad things happening, encouraging them, or letting them happen, but I'm not sure how I know I've come to terms with something.

In response to Beeminding Sin
Comment author: MixedNuts 06 July 2013 10:58:35AM 2 points [-]

What's the downside of lust?

Comment author: Estarlio 04 July 2013 10:59:11PM 11 points [-]

Because the consequences of losing are so terrible, people tend to avoid serious fighting if they can. Being hunted - a far more likely state - is decidedly un-fun.

Comment author: MixedNuts 05 July 2013 07:31:22AM 0 points [-]

It's definitely terrible and to be avoided if at all possible, but it is kind of fun. We can and do get back a small part of that feeling with roller coasters and action movies and fighting sports.

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