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Comment author: MrMind 23 May 2013 08:33:46AM 2 points [-]

I LOLed because European Union has invested some million euros on research programs about insects as protein source...

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2013 01:28:19PM *  7 points [-]

Guy: You mean I just have to walk over to the fridge and I get a kiss? Score! Girl: You mean I just have to give out a kiss while sitting and I don't have to get up and get my soda? Score!

Oh, I had in mind this picture instead: "I'll give you a kiss if you get me a soda from the fridge." Guys fetch the soda, girls walks away with the soda.

That being said, I'm thinking of already being in a relationship. I'm not entirely sure how this would work on a flirting with an unattached person level, since I don't recall ever receiving much flirting before I was in a relationship.

In my experience, I've seen plenty 'egalitarian' exchanges between two engaged people, while I've never ever seen such an exchange between a girl flirting with a stranger.

I wonder which was the intended interpration...

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2013 01:15:56PM *  2 points [-]

This 'one' has had not particular difficulty finding PUA resources that agree on a significant proportion of the courtship dance. As such one questions to what extent your 'hard pressing' is sincere.

Well, right now I am sincerely baffled.

I've been reading/listening contradictory advice on basically anything, e.g. direct vs indirect approach, usefulness of story-telling, the importance of physical aspects, of dressing, where to meet women, what qualities a man should possess, etc. For any "do X, Y doesn't work" someone says, there's someone else explicitely stating "X doesn't work, do Y".

If someone's interested, I could post specific examples.

The basic premises are pretty darn similar from one PUA resource to another.

Maybe I'm overexposed to minority views. Care to elaborate which those premises are?

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2013 01:05:59PM -1 points [-]

A good exercise provides for deliberate practice.

I've seen that's usually the case that books with opposing theories reccommends opposing practices, so how am I supposed to discriminate in advance between good and bad exercises?

Or am I misreading you and you're suggesting that there are no bad exercises?

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2013 10:33:38AM 2 points [-]

Read Pick Up Artist books, actually do the exercises, as in don't find excuses for why you can't, do them.

That is unsatisfactory, to say the least. Assuming one can find a PUA book that actually does contain exercises and not just a plethora of fictional evidence based theories, that is not marketing material or a simple scam, one is still hard pressed to find two books that agrees on some aspects of the courtship dance...

If anyone knows of any such good book, as a short-terming male I'm very open to openly try and review it.

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2013 09:55:38AM 6 points [-]

generally girl-game my way into getting what I want. (Charming guys is fun!)

I'm trying to unpack this sentence, I think it means something like this: "I signal sexual availability so that males will offer me favours in exchange, but I have enough plausible deniability so that I don't have to follow through" plus "whenever a male accepts such an exchange, I get a self-esteem boost". I don't know if such an interpretation is generally what other people have in their minds.

my attractiveness to men depends largely on my looks but the inverse is not true

So that's an opinion between females too? Does that have a chance to be true? I don't see any particular evidence supporting it...

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2013 08:58:28AM 0 points [-]

That's an interesting question: is exploiting (neutral connotation) men a way of understanding? Intuitively, the answer would be no, but on the other side, hackers are often very knowledgeable about the systems they hack.

Comment author: MrMind 06 May 2013 08:30:34AM 0 points [-]

Well, deciding when to stop caring at a certain complexity level is a sort of ethical reflection.
Anyway, if we care about humans and animals because they have some sort of thinking life, then if these studies are valid we should start paying attention to plants too. Of course we could simply decide we need to care on some other basis.

Comment author: MrMind 03 May 2013 03:25:00PM 3 points [-]

You're probably generalizing from one example/other-optimizing.

Omega forbid!

I realize the phrasing is miscalibrated, I only inteded suggesting that it's not always the case that the friendship is much better than no relation at all.

Although I do believe that it's often the case that friendship is the losing option...

Comment author: MrMind 03 May 2013 10:20:33AM 2 points [-]

If I'm not mistaken, there have been some study on plant communication and data elaboration from their roots, enough to classify them as at least primitively intelligent. Anyway, since they are in fact living and autonomous being, I don't see why they shouldn't be considered subjects of ethical reflections...

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