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I think atheists would do well to encourage agnosticism, seems like an easier sell to me, training wheels? Much of the atheist movement reeks of fundamentalism. By definition atheism is closed minded. So much of science is unknown. I don't discount the idea that the possibility of collective consciousness or any number of other things viewed as supernatural, and therefore dismissed, exist. Read some theoretical physics, we don't understand a lot of stuff. That stuff could be the basis completely different ways of thinking about reality. It may very well be that what we perceive as reality is a small part, or an expression of something that no one has begun to understand. It's cliche but what if we are programs running on some ultra advanced computer. Would the operator of that computer not be a "god." Dismissing that idea is silly, creating computers of that complexity is science fiction but it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility. Who's to say we'd be the first one's to do it.
Much of the atheist movement reeks of fundamentalism. By definition atheism is closed minded.
A few months have passed since that comment, but maybe you should consider reading: http://lesswrong.com/lw/nz/arguing_by_definition/ and http://lesswrong.com/lw/ny/sneaking_in_connotations/
Hello everyone! I'm 19 years old BA student of Finance & Accounting from Poland. For some time I have been interested in rationalism, yet in my country internet community oriented with it is rather fledgling and mostly just non-theist in nature. I was brought here by HPMOR. I know Bayes' Theorem from my statistics classes, but it wasn't until recently that I began to understood how it could influence my way of thinking.
Please forgive me if I make small language errors in my posts, while I understand mostly everything written here (barring things that I would not initially comprehend even if I were a native speaker of course ;) ), it has been a long time since I have written anything in English myself and my skills need a little polish.
Now I'm somewhere midway through Core Sequences but hope to participate in the discussions in the future. I am very happy to join you here :)
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Physical view/other (?). I consider personal identity to be based only on the memory of past self, not actual brain process or existence of memory independent conscious mind. It may be very well that the experience of personal continuity is only an illusion as there is no actual continuity at all, only the recollection of previous events (including the attempts of introspection). An exact copy of me wouldn't be any different than myself.