Comment author: eirenicon 18 May 2010 03:54:10PM 3 points [-]

It's a bad analogy because there are different kinds of games, but only one kind of small talk? If you don't think pub talk is a different game than a black tie dinner, well, you've obviously never played. Why do people do it? Well, when you beat a video game, you've beat a video game. When you win at social interaction, you're winning at life - social dominance improves your chances of reproducing.

As for rule books: the fact that the 'real' rules are unwritten is part of the fun. Of course, that's true for most video games. Pretty much any modern game's real tactics come from players, not developers. You think you can win a single StarCraft match by reading the manual? Please.

Comment author: Nanani 19 May 2010 12:21:14AM 6 points [-]

No, pub talk is not exactly the same as a black tie dinner. The -small talk- aspect, though, very much is. It all comes down to social ranking of the participants. In the former, it skews to word assortative mating and in the latter presumably toward power and resources in the buisness world.

If you have a need or desire to win at social interaction, good for you. Please consider that for other people, it -really- isn't that important. There is more to life than attracting mates and business partners. Those things are often a means to an end, and it is preferable to some of us to pursue the ends directly when possible.

The video game analogy is just plain bad.

Comment author: eirenicon 17 May 2010 07:04:33PM *  1 point [-]

do you personally find these status and alliance games interesting? Why?

They're way more interesting than video games, for example. Or watching television. Or numerous other activities people find fun and engaging. Of course, if you're bad at them you aren't going to enjoy them; the same goes for people who can't get past the first stage of Pac-Man.

Comment author: Nanani 18 May 2010 12:51:52AM 4 points [-]

Terrible analogy.

Video games have a lot of diversity to them and different genres engage very different skills. Small talk all seems to encompass the same stuff, namely social ranking.

Some of us know how to do it but just don't -care-, and that doesn't mean we're in fact bad at it. I think that is the point this comment thread is going for.

Comment author: Nanani 18 May 2010 12:38:28AM 1 point [-]

I'm several days late answering, but FWIW, I scored a 30 but only checked off one of the five diagnostic questions. I've never had my IQ tested as an adult.

I do obsessively pursue my chosen interests but given that one of those is language, I don't have the social / verbal awkwardness. I don't -like- social situations but I can function just fine in them.

Comment author: RobinZ 13 May 2010 02:30:11AM 5 points [-]

I have no such knowledge, but allow me to add "better recording and rewatching options" to the list of candidates. Ready access to the backlog is certainly a factor in the success of serials in webcomics over newspaper comics, for example. (Yes, there are serials in both, but they are the norm in webcomics and the exception in print.)

Comment author: Nanani 13 May 2010 03:04:57AM 6 points [-]

Not to mention viewer base fragmentation. There is less need to appeal to the so-called lowest common denominator when there are hundreds or thousands of avenues for transmission. Those without patience for long story arcs can watch a different program more easily today than they could before cable, satelite, and the internet.

Comment author: LauraABJ 12 May 2010 04:46:36PM 1 point [-]

I have always been curious about the effects of mass-death on human genetics. Is large scale death from plague, war, or natural-disaster likely to have much effect on the genetics of cognitive architecture, or are outcomes generally too random? Is there evidence for what traits are selected for by these events?

Comment author: Nanani 13 May 2010 03:02:26AM 0 points [-]

Seconded, but with a request for contrast, if possible, with human-caused mass-death such as invasion by conquering hordes. What effect do such phenomena have at the genetic level wrt cognition, as opposed to cultural or lingustic transmission?

Comment author: timtyler 10 May 2010 08:54:12PM 4 points [-]

Yay! Congrats!

Not sure about "tl;dr", though!

Isn't that what I say when I skip your non-abstracted article...? ;-)

Comment author: Nanani 12 May 2010 03:14:00AM 0 points [-]

Somehow I found the tl;dr impenetrable, but the actual article eminently readable. Is this deliberate?

Comment author: KristyLynn 11 May 2010 01:27:22PM 1 point [-]

I don't know much about computers but it makes sense that spam is easily confused with legitimate information. I myself have noticed that over the years there has been a vast increase of the link farm sites and find it equally increasingly annoying.

Thanks for the info.

Comment author: Nanani 12 May 2010 03:10:33AM 0 points [-]

I haven't noticed a vast increase, but I have noticed waves, so to speak, of link-farm prevalence. The very effect in action?

Comment author: Roko 09 May 2010 02:30:43PM 9 points [-]

The relevant uses on LW of the "psychological unity of humankind" concept were:

  1. As evidence of common human axiology, i.e. that there are few truly persistent moral disagreements once some kind of "idealization" like volition extrapolation is applied

  2. As the explanation for why it is hard for us to imagine non-human minds, since all human minds are so similar

As for (1), I think that it is refuted by an argument of Greene and Haidt: human moral architecture is universal in form, but its function is to absorb the local morality in youth, i.e. morality is universal in form but local in content.

As for (2), the cognitive differences that we do in fact see in people around the world are clearly not big enough to make a well-traveled person unsurprised by the concept of a paperclip maximizer.

Comment author: Nanani 11 May 2010 02:39:01AM 1 point [-]

Well put!

We might want to come up with another name for (2). Humans are closer to each other in mindspace than they are to any alien mind, but it does not follow that, close up, all humans have the exact same psychology.

There may be more than zoom-degree involved in the difference.

Comment author: Alicorn 10 May 2010 04:15:04PM *  3 points [-]

Autism in general affects four times as many men than women in the general population; but I've noticed that a surprisingly high proportion of the autistic "public figures" - given that ratio - are women. Temple Grandin, for instance, may be the most famous person with autism around; and a majority of the autism bloggers I've run across are female. I don't know why this is.

Comment author: Nanani 11 May 2010 02:36:14AM 0 points [-]

Does "autism bloggers" mean "people who blog specifically about autism"?

If so, it might be instructive to check how many bloggers in other subjects also happen to have autism. It might be dificult to verify but the blogosphere is large enough to dig up a usefully-sized sample and disentangle to some degree the autism-blogging link.

Comment author: Nanani 11 May 2010 01:58:00AM 0 points [-]

Wow! I haven't got any questions (yet) but I am very eager to dive into this Q&A. Thanks to everyone involved in organizing this.

By the way, you spelled Steve SailEr's name wrong.

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