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Comment author: RomeoStevens 22 April 2014 11:48:52PM 0 points [-]

I've been trying to convince various people to buy more expensive shoes because their amortized cost winds up being similar to cheaper shoes.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 23 April 2014 03:37:10AM 0 points [-]

I've gone in the opposite direction. I have wide feet (8E), and now that I've found cheap but not terribly durable sneakers that fit, I just keep buying more of them.

In response to Ergonomics Revisited
Comment author: NancyLebovitz 22 April 2014 10:21:06PM 1 point [-]

Should shoes be added to the list?

Comment author: april_flower 21 April 2014 06:58:06PM 10 points [-]

How strong is the evidence in favor of psychological treatment really?

I am not happy. I suffer from social anxiety. I procrastinate. And I have a host of another issues that are all linked, I am certain. I have actually sought out treatment with absolutely no effect. On the recommendation of my primary care physician I entered psychoanalytic counseling and was appalled by the theoretical basis and practical course of "treatment". After several months without even the hint of a success I aborted the treatment and looked for help somewhere else.

I then read David Burns' "Feeling Good", browsing through, taking notes and doing the exercises for a couple of days. It did not help, of course in hindsight I wasn't doing the treatment long enough to see any benefit. But the theoretical basis intrigued me. It just made so much more sense to be determined by one's beliefs than a fear of having one's balls chopped off, hating their parents and actively seeking out displeasure because that is what fits the narrative.

Based on the key phrase "CBT" I found "The now habit" and reading me actually helped to subdue my procrastination long enough to finish my bachelor's degree in a highly technical subject with grades in the highest quintile. Then I slipped back into a phase of relative social isolation, procrastionation and so on.

We see these phenomena consistently in people. We also see them consistently in animals being held in captivity not suited to their species' specific needs. I am less and less convinced that this block of anxiety, depression and procrastination is a disease but a reaction to an environment in the broadest sense inherently unsuitable to humans.

The proper and accepted procedure for me would be to try counseling again, this time with a cognitive behavioral approach. But I am unwilling to commit that much time for uncertain results, especially now that I want to travel or do a year abroad or just run away from it all. (Suicide is not an option) What lowers my odds of success even more is that I never feel understood by people put in place to understand in various venues. So how could such a treatment help?

I am open to bibliotherapy. I don't think I am open to traditional or even medical therapy.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 22 April 2014 11:13:39AM 2 points [-]

We see these phenomena consistently in people. We also see them consistently in animals being held in captivity not suited to their species' specific needs. I am less and less convinced that this block of anxiety, depression and procrastination is a disease but a reaction to an environment in the broadest sense inherently unsuitable to humans.

I've heard the idea from Somatic Experiencing-- unfortunately, I haven't found anything that goes into detail about that particular angle, except that part of it seems to be about having a tribe-- it's not just about spending time out of doors.

I'll be keeping an eye out for information on the subject, but meanwhile, you might want to look into Somatic Experiencing and Peter A. Levine.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 21 April 2014 12:25:02AM 2 points [-]

Your karma model would fit a child who's been given a good but not superb upbringing-- the parents set up reasonable rules with proportionate rewards and punishments, but don't teach the meta level of thinking about whether what you're doing makes sense.

Comment author: drethelin 20 April 2014 09:23:48PM 0 points [-]

I think the problem would be justifying the expense. Since catholics believe in a supernatural bodily resurrection, they would still respect the preserved but feel no need to maintain them in a chilled state.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 20 April 2014 11:51:06PM 1 point [-]

It would depend on how they interpreted the obligation to not kill.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 19 April 2014 06:48:31AM 6 points [-]

Reminds me of John C. Wright's comments on the subject here

So I tried to puzzle out that safest way to store your body while you slept.

Option one: you can trust to the government to look after it, or some other long lived private institution. Menelaus Montrose does this in an early stage of history called the Cryonarchy, where the control of the suspended animation tombs is the core of the political power of the ruling caste (all of whom are Montrose’s remote inlaws).

You can try the longest-lived institution of all, which is the Catholic Church. Their famous reverence for relict and boneyards and preserving the lore of the past could be turned to preserving their sleeping ancestors as an act of charity.

(No one will believe this, but I had that idea long before I converted. It just seemed a natural extrapolation of human behavior based on non-PC, that is, non-revisionist hence non-lying-ass, history.)

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 April 2014 11:14:34PM 2 points [-]

If you could come up with an organization with as much emotional oomph as the Catholic Church that took cryonics seriously, that would be very impressive, but I don't think it's possible.

On the other side, what would it take to convince the Catholic Church that frozen people were alive enough that care should be taken to keep them frozen until they can be revived?

Comment author: shaih 19 April 2014 05:12:13PM 0 points [-]

There is something to be said to improving the quality of life as well as saving lives. In scientific and discovery fields such as pure math, contributions could improve the quality of life exponentially.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 April 2014 07:15:40PM 1 point [-]

Quite possibly. Do you have ideas about which math specialties and/or which problems are more likely to have a big effect?

Mathematics and saving lives

2 NancyLebovitz 19 April 2014 01:32PM

A high school student with an interest in math asks whether he's obligated on utilitarian grounds to become a doctor.

The commenters pretty much say that he isn't, but now I'm wondering-- if you go into reasonably pure math, what areas or specific problems would be most likely to contribute the most towards saving lives?

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 15 April 2014 06:49:53PM *  2 points [-]

I love the marshmallow maximizer!

Perhaps it could serve as an educational example about how an Unfriendly AI might exploit our psychological weaknesses to make us accept horrible outcomes. :D

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 April 2014 12:51:37PM 2 points [-]

I don't have a rationality point, but I like the grumpy cat "joy in the merely real" one.

Meetup: Philadelphia, April 12, 1PM

2 NancyLebovitz 11 April 2014 08:24AM

WHEN: 12 April 2014 1:00 PM

WHERE: Philadelphia

The meetup is at Nam Phuong (llth and Broad) at 1:00 PM. This is a Saturday (change from the previous Sunday meetups).

Discussion prompt: http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/03/17/not-just-a-mere-political-issue/

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