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Comment author: blogospheroid 08 September 2012 05:10:06AM 1 point [-]

How important is the shape of the noses to the jewish people?

Consider a jew is injured in an accident and the best reconstruction that is present restores the nose to a nazi shape and not a jew one. How would his family react? How different will be his ability to achieve his life's goals and his sense of himself?

How would a nazi react to such a jew?

If the aspect of the Jews that the Nazis have to change is something integral to their worldview, then a repugnant conclusion becomes sort of inevitable.

Till then, pull on the rope sideways. Try to save as many people as possible.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 22 July 2014 03:21:10PM 0 points [-]

In the real world, Nazis believed that Jews were inimical to Aryans, and treacherous as well. Jews that didn't look like Jews were still considered to be threats.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 21 July 2014 03:48:17PM 1 point [-]

Fear of happiness

Some major cultures and some individuals mistrust happiness (see article for reasons)-- if happiness is not a major value, how does this affect ethics/utilitarianism?

Comment author: Douglas_Reay 18 July 2014 10:20:11AM 0 points [-]

I wouldn't mind seeing a few more karma categories.

I'd like to see more forums than just "Main" versus "Discussion". When making a post, the poster should be able to pick which forum or forums they think it is suitable to appear in, and when giving a post a 'thumb up', or 'thumb down', in addition to being apply to apply it to the content of the post itself, it should also be possible to apply it to the appropriateness of the post to a particular forum.

So, for example, if someone posted a detailed account of a discussion that happened at a particular meetup, this would allow you to indicate that the content itself is good, but that it is more suitable for the "Meetups" forum (or tag?), than for main.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 18 July 2014 01:37:19PM 0 points [-]

A detailed discussion of what happened at a meetup might well belong in discussion or even main if what's important is the discussion rather than the meetupness.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 17 July 2014 09:10:12AM *  3 points [-]

This is what I called a servant mentality. ...It's: "I'll do my best, of course, and I deserve nothing; my privilege to serve you is the greatest reward I could ever get."

But nobody is really thinking that last phrase.

Secretly, they would prefer better conditions; but they don't have any hope left.

This is nearer the truth. They're too hopeless, too irresponsible, too lazy, or too cowardly, and don't care enough about their own lives to take care of business and take action to improve their lives.

And the rational (winning) reaction is to a) whine, or b) start looking after your status and power, too?

Closer to neither. Whining is worse than pointless, but joining in the vapid quest for power over others would be soul crushing as well. It's not what they value. They value creating value, and should be putting themselves in a position to do this, and benefit by it.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 17 July 2014 01:47:05PM 6 points [-]

Secretly, they would prefer better conditions; but they don't have any hope left.

This is nearer the truth. They're too hopeless, too irresponsible, too lazy, or too cowardly, and don't care enough about their own lives to take care of business and take action to improve their lives.

It's plausible that after a while working under bad conditions, they're also too tired.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 15 July 2014 10:36:44AM 0 points [-]

I agree with all that, I was just running with the idea that one way or another, truly superior beings would in the end displace the rest, with or without actual war.

Now, successful breeding combined with life extension for all, so that present-day average people get to live into a future dominated by the results of several generations of breeding, that could be an interesting scenario for an SF story. I would expect the violence to originate with the marginalised rather than the elite.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 17 July 2014 05:38:02AM 0 points [-]

You might be interested in "Nobody Home" by Joanna Russ. A woman who's reasonably bright by modern standards just doesn't fit in a future where everyone else is much brighter than she is. No violence, just a miserable trap for her.

I don't consider that future all that plausible-- it seems unlikely that there was only one person at that intelligence level.

Comment author: Algernoq 15 July 2014 02:44:14AM 15 points [-]

Thanks for the detailed reply!

Based on this feedback, I think my criticisms reflect mostly on my fit with the LWers I happened to meet, and on my unreasonably high standards for a largely informal group.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 July 2014 04:52:22PM 7 points [-]

Upvoted for updating.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 July 2014 08:19:39AM 0 points [-]

Any suggestions for a better heuristic?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 July 2014 04:43:24PM 0 points [-]

I'm not sure that any of those would take less than 10 minutes for a large group. Also, it gets tougher if any in the group have serious dietary or financial constraints.

Comment author: siodine 27 August 2012 11:53:52PM 1 point [-]

I believe you've confused my description of the paleo diet with me advocating for the paleo diet (I am supporting an aspect of the paleo diet, but I then go on to say "a better diet...").

And although nuts are calorific, personally I have a hard time eating more than 10-20 almonds in a day because they're simply not that compelling of a snack (I'm not dainty either), but that's not to say there aren't better alternatives for a snack

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 July 2014 03:37:00PM 0 points [-]

I hit satiety pretty easily with nuts, but I get the impression I'm not typical.

Comment author: Algernoq 13 July 2014 11:35:23PM *  2 points [-]

there's pressure to justify my preferences in terms of a higher-level explicit utility function before they can be considered valid

I experienced this too, though I claimed an explicit utility function (making self-replicating robots) that no one was prepared to argue with, so I didn't get anyone telling me my feelings were irrational and should be ignored.

I also noticed some slow decision-making. Recommendation: in a large group, use a heuristic that takes less than 10 minutes of discussion to decide where/when to go for dinner.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 July 2014 08:19:39AM 0 points [-]

Any suggestions for a better heuristic?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 13 July 2014 11:39:48PM 1 point [-]

That's how evolution works, natural or artificial, as long as we keep dying.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 July 2014 01:16:46AM 1 point [-]

That's how evolution works sometimes. In general, there's a noticeable chance of both species surviving in different niches.

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