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Comment author: OphilaDros 13 March 2015 07:38:53AM 1 point [-]

Just wanted to update that the two parties in Bangalore have been merged. Either of those links will point to the same location and time details, but just in case you're still editing the list.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 12 March 2015 07:23:00PM *  4 points [-]

So Mr. White was the one who was Lucius? Not Mr. Counsel, the one Voldemort chided for not conquering the country in his name and limiting himself to the Wizengamot?

What made Harry certain of that?

Comment author: OphilaDros 12 March 2015 07:24:17PM *  7 points [-]

Mr. Counsel might have been Bartemius Crouch Jr.

Comment author: OphilaDros 12 March 2015 06:20:08PM *  0 points [-]

This meetup is updated to 9:00 PM IST on 14th March. Details updated at the meetup.com link.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 06 March 2015 09:38:02PM *  7 points [-]

Yes I didn't mean Ng. "Diss" is sort of unfortunate phrasing, he just wants to get work done. Sorry for being unclear.

Comment author: OphilaDros 07 March 2015 01:40:48AM 1 point [-]

Ok, sure. Changed the title in line with Vaniver's suggestion.

I had not understood what the "tribal talk" comment was referring to either and then decided to put only as much effort into understanding it as the commenter had in being understood. :)

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 06 March 2015 09:09:53AM *  12 points [-]

He doesn't "diss UFAI concerns", he says "I don’t know how to productively work on that", which seems accurate for the conventional meaning of "productive" even after looking into the issue. He doesn't address the question of whether it's worthwhile to work on the issue unproductively, illustrating his point with the analogy (overpopulation on Mars) where it's clearly not.

Comment author: OphilaDros 06 March 2015 12:15:19PM 5 points [-]

I think since he draws an analogy to a problem it would be actually absurd to work on (no point working on overpopulation on Mars unless several other events happen first), he does seem to be suggesting that it's ridiculous worrying about things like UFAI now rather than "hundreds, maybe thousands of years from now".

Anyway, I only thought the post was interesting from a PR point of view. The AI problem has been getting good press lately with Musk/Gates et al suggesting that it is something worth worrying about. Ng hasn't said anything that will move the larger discussion in an interesting direction, but it does have the ability to move the whole problem back very slightly in the direction of 'weird problem only weird people will spend time worrying about' in the minds of the general public.

Andrew Ng dismisses UFAI concerns

3 OphilaDros 06 March 2015 05:26AM



“I don’t work on preventing AI from turning evil for the same reason that I don’t work on combating overpopulation on the planet Mars,” he said. “Hundreds of years from now when hopefully we’ve colonized Mars, overpopulation might be a serious problem and we’ll have to deal with it. It’ll be a pressing issue. There’s tons of pollution and people are dying and so you might say, ‘How can you not care about all these people dying of pollution on Mars?’ Well, it’s just not productive to work on that right now.”

Current AI systems, Ng contends, are basic relative to human intelligence, even if there are things they can do that exceed the capabilities of any human. “Maybe hundreds of years from now, maybe thousands of years from now—I don’t know—maybe there will be some AI that turn evil,” he said, “but that’s just so far away that I don’t know how to productively work on that.”

The bigger worry, he noted, was the effect that increasingly smart machines might have on the job market, displacing workers in all kinds of fields much faster than even industrialization displaced agricultural workers or automation displaced factory workers.


(An earlier version of this article was titled 'Andrew Ng disses UFAI concerns" which is the phrasing many of the commenters are responding to).

Comment author: taryneast 28 February 2014 09:59:04AM 2 points [-]

Yeah. Beeminder doesn't work for me either - nor do most online punishment-based motivators.

My problem with it is that it doesn't punish you for failing to do the thing you need to do. It punishes you for failing to record the fact that you did the thing you need to do.

So if you're time-poor (like me) and still managed to do the thing... but didn't have time to go online and tell beeminder that you did the thing... you still get punished. :(

Comment author: OphilaDros 10 March 2014 06:55:44AM 1 point [-]

The beeminder team sends "legitimacy check" emails if you've derailed on your goal which explicitly asks if it was a case of forgetting to enter the data. I've written in once or twice when I've derailed on account of not entering the data on time and have had quick responses from them, and haven't been punished. Were you unaware you could do this?

Comment author: OnTheOtherHandle 31 July 2013 10:47:37PM 7 points [-]

This question bothers me so much that once I get to be a good enough programmer I actually want to build a website that will connect adult beginners with each other so that maximum learning can happen with minimal embarrassment and no interaction with children. A system where you can trade tutoring ("I'll teach you the violin if you'll teach me painting") or simply pay for classes, with some way to rate and view the quality of each person's teaching would be useful.

As long as there is no larger system like that, I'd suggest that your best bet is to find a friend or acquaintance who is good at whatever you want to learn and offer them something they want but wouldn't ask for, whether it's money or a favor. That way, you get to learn things at a personalized pace while building a friendship.

Comment author: OphilaDros 02 August 2013 06:27:06AM 3 points [-]

There are forums like this where you can connect with other adult beginners (or learners at most levels, really) and even upload your recordings and ask for feedback.

There are also discussions around what pieces to learn next, how to set up a daily practise regimen etc. Does not replace a tutor, but is very useful nevertheless.

Comment author: James_Miller 31 July 2013 10:07:49PM 2 points [-]

My hearing has always tested as fine. I like some visual art, although I'm well below average in this. I do get pleasure in seeing beautiful things. I've never experienced music as beautiful and to my mind music being beautiful seems like a category error.

Comment author: OphilaDros 02 August 2013 04:46:52AM 0 points [-]

Do you enjoy movies? Does the background score seem distracting?

Comment author: DanielLC 14 July 2013 04:52:59AM 2 points [-]

Tiger meat would be much more expensive than beef, but there's still enough of a market for it to keep tigers from going extinct.

Comment author: OphilaDros 14 July 2013 04:31:39PM *  2 points [-]

Not all animals can be domesticated for meat production. Jared Diamond discusses the question in "Guns, Germs and Steel". He calls it the Anna Karenina principle, and some of the factors influencing this are:

  • Growth rate of the species
  • Breeding habits - do they tend to breed well in closed spaces
  • Nasty disposition
  • Social structure

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