Comment author: SilasBarta 25 August 2011 11:05:48PM *  -6 points [-]

I actually have no interest in supporting your research. Every time I ask a clarifying question of any of your claims, you get extremely defensive and fail to answer it, which suggests a poor understaning of what you're trying to present results on. Also, every piece of advice I've followed falls woefully short of what you claim it does, and I don't seem to be alone here (on either point). I think your contributions are overrated.

(This is a large part of why I put such a low prior on claims of the minicamp's phenomenal success and was so skeptical of the report.)

I don't claim to have contributed more research, to LW, of course, but when I do present research I make sure to understand it.

In fairness, your more recent work doesn't seem to be subject to any of this, so I could very well change my opinion on this.

Comment author: OptimalFAI 26 August 2011 01:07:33AM -15 points [-]

"I actually have no interest in supporting your research. "

Eliezer might have to defend the Golden Boy here. This takes issue with Eliezer's promotion of Luke.

"I think your contributions are overrated."

Ouch! Silas is bringing the bitch slap.

Comment author: AuthorityFigure 25 August 2011 03:29:24PM 12 points [-]

"Sure, I'd love to! (I thought I didn't qualify to volunteer for SIAI?)"

LOL. Way to play up the role of the passive-aggressive outsider.

Comment author: OptimalFAI 25 August 2011 06:59:45PM 6 points [-]

Very true.

In the interest of optimizing our rationality I think that we need to continue to call out instances "community distancing" such as the one exhibited by Silas above.

The reason for doing so? It lets the dissenters know that a community can tolerate and appreciate criticism but not the creation of a lone wolf character. Lone wolves do not contribute to a community and instead impede our advances in rationality by drawing conversations back to their status. As such, their status seeking should be pointed out and skepticism should be attached to their future postings.

Passive-aggressive comments in particular are troublesome because these types eventually find ways to disrupt substantive threads by reminding others of their loner status and their unacknowledged genius. Their resentment then leads to them mocking key figures in a community (note Silas' comments to both Eliezer and Luke).

Perhaps LW needs a mini-sequence on acceptable and non-acceptable signaling within a rational community.