Comment author: MugaSofer 29 July 2013 06:53:18PM 0 points [-]

Cool. Firstly, where is that established in canon?

Secondly, not everyone can cast the Imperius.

Thirdly, some people can resist the Imperius, and these people are, I should think, especially likely to do something about it.

Comment author: Osuniev 28 August 2013 10:48:54PM 1 point [-]

In Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Imperiused Pius Thicknesse is charged by the Death Eaters with imperiusing other members of the MoM. (Or was he the one being imperiued by an imperiused ?)

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 01 July 2013 03:10:02AM -1 points [-]

I believe this is meant to be interpreted in the same sense as CS Lewis's claim that Aslan isn't an allegory for Jesus.

Comment author: Osuniev 28 August 2013 09:23:15PM 1 point [-]

Quote ? I think the 7th book of the chronicles of Narnia clearly establishes that Aslan IS, in fact, Jesus in a very litteral sense.

Comment author: somervta 30 June 2013 11:07:55PM 1 point [-]

Although it's possible that Snape is assuming that Dumbledore would't possibly forget to check for that (are there ways to check?). I know my first reaction to the original Rowling-fic is "OK, there's no way Dumbledore didn't know a teacher was being possessed by Voldemort."

Comment author: Osuniev 28 August 2013 04:03:22PM 0 points [-]

Well he did know, as we find out in the 7th book.

Comment author: Osuniev 31 July 2013 11:52:04PM 0 points [-]

In light of chapters 96 I would update this chance to 45 %.

Comment author: Osuniev 01 August 2013 12:04:48AM 1 point [-]

Putting my wager where my mouth is : http://predictionbook.com/predictions/20831

Comment author: Osuniev 23 December 2012 02:28:05AM *  4 points [-]

re-reading chapter 76 made me realise the prophecy could not be about Voldemort at all :

Let's look at this prophecy in detail :

"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches,"

Vanquish, as Snape said, is a strange word to describe a baby accidentally toasting Voldemort, especially since we have evidence that this might not be what really happened. "Dark Lord" is used by EY quite loosely, and not as something specifically relating to Voldemort. Indeed, Dumbledore seems to worry that he could be this Dark Lord. Now, if we step outside of what we think we know about the prophecy...

Who is Harry trying to "vanquish" ? Who is it which Harry has "the power to Vanquish" ?

Dementors ? Death in general ? Dementors as an incarnation of Death ?

Could Death be considered as the Dark Lord ? I admit this is stretching the use of the word Dark Lord, but it does sounds interesting and more appropriate to Vanquish. Now, bear with me a moment and let's look at the rest of the prophecy : Born to those who have thrice defied him,

Now, while Lily and James have defied death 3 times, there's a million person in the same case on the planet. But WHO has defied Death three times in the Universe ?

The Peverell Brother. Harry's ancestors through the Potter Family.

Born as the seventh month dies, And the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal,

The Tale of the Three Brothers specifically says : "..."And then he [the third brother Ignotus, owner of the Cloak] greeted Death as an old friend, and went with him gladly, and, as equals, they departed this life." Harry having the Cloak works, as such. Alternatively, Harry "killing" Dementors make Death and he litteraly equals, in that they can destroy each other.

But he will have power the Dark Lord knows not,

The only unique powers Harry has are Dementor 2.0 and partial transfiguration Dementor 2.0 seems rather good.

And either must destroy all but a remnant of the other, For those two different spirits cannot exist in the same world.

I find really interesting that nowhere it is said that the dark lord "lives". "Destroy all but a remnant" could mean Dementing Harry, or Destroying all dementors except one, or giving Philosopher's Stones to everyone but without the death rate falling to zero (because accidental Death would still happen buit would not be an inevitability.

Note that this theory (still improbable, if I had to bet on it I wouldn't assign more than a 15 % chance for Death to be the "Dark Lord" of the prophecy) is still compatible with Dumbledore trying to trick Voldemort in a Dark ritual, or both of them interpreting the prophecy as in canon.

Comment author: Osuniev 31 July 2013 11:52:04PM 0 points [-]

In light of chapters 96 I would update this chance to 45 %.

Comment author: Larks 03 April 2013 03:07:25AM 5 points [-]

Despite agreeing with the rest of the essay (which is very good), this is not true. Tiresomely standard counter-example: "Heil Hitler! No, there are no Jews in my attic."

Comment author: Osuniev 03 April 2013 08:03:02AM 10 points [-]

I would say this is not ALWAYS true. But for the purpose of civilized discussion between human beings, it does seem like a very useful rule of thumb.

Comment author: Furcas 21 March 2009 11:33:21PM *  1 point [-]

Depending on what it is that the other person disapproves of about me, I might feel annoyed or offended. But so what if I do? If I'm cooperating with a person to achieve something that's important to me, learning that he thinks one of my beliefs is stupid (for example) isn't going to change anything about my resolve to cooperate. Feeling otherwise would be foolish.

As it turns out, I have been called 'dogmatic' and 'fundamentalist' and various other charming adjectives because of my belief that an essential part of fostering the growth of a rational society consists of creating a social climate in which irrationality is seen in a bad light, and the best way to do that is conversational intolerance of unreason. I can't say I enjoyed being called dogmatic, but it hasn't affected my desire to cooperate with those I see as mostly rational enablers of foolishness. If I can get over my hurt feelings, why can't they?

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Comment author: Osuniev 15 March 2013 04:30:28PM 1 point [-]

Maybe because you are hurting and getting hurt, but these "enablers of foolishness" are getting hurt while they don't (consciously) hurt others, and therefore would probably consider unfair to be attacked.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 19 December 2011 10:46:51PM *  4 points [-]

Seem to be assuming there is a higher purpose for bullying, which seems to be making a mistake along the same lines as the parable of group selection.

Possibly bullies bully because they enjoy it and aren't stopped from doing so. What additional explanation is needed?

Comment author: Osuniev 15 March 2013 04:23:22PM *  4 points [-]

Well, as a kid I got bullied at school, quite a bit, and I DO remember bullying other a handful of times.

I remember being conscious about it and feeling like shit for it, but at the same time being so relieved because as long as someone else was being bullied, I wasn't.

I certainly did not enjoy it, mainly because it contradicted my vision of myself as a courageous victim.

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 22 March 2009 01:59:33AM 2 points [-]

What about tolerating people who don't tolerate you? I think this calls for a tit-for-tat strategy.

Comment author: Osuniev 15 March 2013 04:18:00PM 1 point [-]

´Well, tolerating them has a good chance of signalling to neutral observers that you are not a pompous jerk, and therefore listen to your ideas favorably.

Comment author: caiuscamargarus 22 March 2009 04:00:55PM 0 points [-]

Based on the original Newcomb Problem post, I would say this statement has a definitional, an empirical, and a normative component, which is what makes it so difficult to unpack. The normative is simple enough: the tools of rationality should be used to steer the future toward regions of higher preference, rather than for their own sake. The definitional component widens the definition of rationality from specific modes of thinking to something more general, like holding true beliefs and updating them in the face of evidence. The empirical claim is that true beliefs and updating, properly applied, will always yield equal or better results in all cases (except when faced with a rationality-punishing deity).

Comment author: Osuniev 15 March 2013 03:59:00PM 1 point [-]

(...Except when faced with a rationality-punishing deity)

And even there, arguably, the true beliefs of "this deity punish rationality" and "this deity uses this algorithm to do so" could lead to applying the right kind of behaviour to avoid said punishment.

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