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Comment author: wedrifid 23 August 2013 03:23:14AM 1 point [-]

I would respond with a mildly self-deprecatory comment that simultaneously ironically highlights the strange, unnecessary harshness and lack of humor one may find surprisingly commonly on LW, but I expect it would just get a bunch of downvotes and be a silly waste of time, amusing no one but myself.

Good decision. I'll point out, however, that I was being kind, not harsh. Your behaviour was sending 'troll' signals and my impression was that you were not intending to. The hypomanic enthusiasm your post and followup replies suggest can be a powerful force at times but needs to be carefully managed lest it result in unintended (and unconsidered) consequences. If you really want to go the distance with your education startup you'll need to balance the enthusiasm with, for want of a better term, stability. Understanding (and caring) how others will respond to the signals you give will also be absolutely critical. Much (perhaps even most) of the task of your startup creation (even an educational not-particularly-for-profit) will be in figuring out what you can do to invoke the desired behaviour in others.

(Note that using your terminology this isn't advice to be 'sane and well measured', this is advice to do 'insane' right.)

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 23 August 2013 06:23:25AM 0 points [-]

Good decision.

............. Okay, I have got to get out of this discussion. xD

Comment author: Crux 23 August 2013 03:11:31AM *  0 points [-]

I for one don't understand why you specifically mentioned Rolf. He was extremely charitable with you, and did nothing but try to help. Why highlight him in particular in that context, of saying you're insane or whatever?

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 23 August 2013 06:05:34AM 0 points [-]

... Yes, Rolf was awesome, and he is cool and I like him. That is entirely the point. The bit about him helping me to realize that I am "crazy" is a humorous way of giving mad props to his clear and incisive thinking.

Comment author: wedrifid 23 August 2013 12:29:14AM 6 points [-]

Sane and well-measured advice is therefore wasted on me, and I just wanted to edit in this notice here so that other well-meaning folks don't get tricked into wasting their time trying to talk sense into a total nutcase like me. :)

(I appreciate all y'all, though. ^^ ) ]

Your edit seems to amount to an instruction to downvote and ignore you. I am not sure that it is achieving the purpose you intend (because I am not sure what purpose that could be).

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 23 August 2013 02:32:38AM *  1 point [-]

I would respond with a mildly self-deprecatory comment that simultaneously ironically highlights the strange, unnecessary harshness and lack of humor one may find surprisingly commonly on LW, but I expect it would just get a bunch of downvotes and be a silly waste of time, amusing no one but myself.

Comment author: PECOS-9 23 August 2013 12:07:20AM 1 point [-]

What do you mean by "have access to"?

Also, I'd be interested in that reading list, if it wouldn't be too much effort for you to put together.

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 23 August 2013 01:17:06AM 1 point [-]

What do you mean by "have access to"?

Hm, yeah, that's a really weird way to phrase it unless you have certain... historical things in mind. Strictly speaking, everyone "has access" to all the books and other resources you need. It's just really unlikely for anyone to notice that it's something worth focusing on.

Okay, I wrote my response to Technoguyrob to double as a response to you. I'll get back to you in a few days.

Comment author: Technoguyrob 22 August 2013 11:57:17PM 3 points [-]

Seeing as how classical mechanics is an effective theory for physically restructuring significant portions of reality to one's goals, you are promising something tantamount to a full theory of knowledge acquisition, something linguists and psychologists smarter than you have worked on for centuries.

Calm down with promises that will disappoint you and make an MVP.

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 23 August 2013 01:11:00AM *  0 points [-]

Yes.

Minimum Viable Products have been done, hence the excitement... just built mainly for markets where the ultimate "consumers" have pretty much no influence over "purchasing policy"... and stuff ...

It's not a theory of learning, but a theory of instruction...

As to "smarter than me", I didn't develop the theory, and it's largely dumb luck I came across all the puzzle pieces in a way that made it perfectly obvious how much of a Big Deal the implications could be...

A year ago, I'd've talked your ear off at this point trying to explain how damn cool this is and how much you should care, but now I'm wondering if I should shut up and keep it to myself for a while longer...

I mean, you could extract the information from various crackpot rants that I've left around the web, but... I think I'm safe from you making the effort at this point. xD

Okay, so I didn't really think about whether I wanted to get into this at all beforehand, and I need to talk to my partner.

I have a bunch of moving-to-another-country practical matters I should be focusing on right now anyway.

I'll get back to you guys in a few days.

Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 22 August 2013 11:26:04PM 3 points [-]

I don't have any investment advice, but my general advice is that you should calm down. You seem overly excited.

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 22 August 2013 11:35:03PM -2 points [-]

Oh, alright, allow me to adjust down to the objectively correct level of excitement...

=ಠnಠ=

Better?

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 22 August 2013 07:34:21PM *  3 points [-]

Ok, first of all, I wish you the best of luck in your craziness. The time to swing for the fences is when you're young; that's when you can afford to take a couple of risks.

Your description does narrow down the kind of advice you should be looking for somewhat; it's true that most of PG's essays are directed at people who are trying to follow the "standard" route of venture-capital funding to an eventual IPO or buyout. Nonetheless, his advice on how entrepreneurs should act internally, as opposed to their relations with investors, still seems relevant. Try "Relentlessly Resourceful" and "Ramen Profitable" for starters. For myself, I find that I like his writing so much that I treat his essay page a bit like the Sequences: I go back and reread them every so often. So if your taste is like mine, you'll end up reading it all eventually; bwah-hah-hah! That said, the best stuff does tend to be in the middle - the post-YC essays are less interesting.

It seems you are going for financial independence rather than huge wealth; perhaps you are already aware of this resource, but if not, you will likely find the blog of Mr Money Mustache motivating.

And what the heck, while I'm suggesting readings anyway, go have a look at the archives of Joel on Software; as with PG, the best essays are from around 2003-2006, or so, but still very much worth reading. They don't ahve quite the same direct relevance to your project, but Joel seems to have done something similar to what you have in mind - build a company to sufficient-for-my-needs profitability without taking venture capital - so you might find it interesting to have a look at how he thinks. In particular, now I consider it, his Strategy Letter I seems relevant to your situation.

Edit to add: And, of course, beware of insight porn! You don't want to spend more than your lunch break or so reading these authors, excellent as they are. Get some dang work done! :)

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 22 August 2013 11:28:44PM *  0 points [-]

Thank you very much! You are cool and I like you and I will look into those some time! :3

I don't think I have to worry too much about "insight porn". The closest I get is obsessively sampling the products of the nearest thing we have to "competition", noting details of all the ways they screw up and how to avoid those problems (and making sure to hit the few points they ever get right!)...

I'm basically forcing myself to spend these next few weeks landing some cheap-or-free rent and other pre-move preparations.

The theoretical and engineering puzzles of building the figurative machinery are just so inherently fascinating, and the joy I anticipate at watching it all run is compelling. :3

Comment author: itaibn0 22 August 2013 07:43:02PM 4 points [-]

Sane and well-measured advice is therefore wasted on me, and I just wanted to edit in this notice here so that other well-meaning folks don't get tricked into wasting their time trying to talk sense into a total nutcase like me. :)

Sorry, but no can do. Part of the Less Wrong mission is "improving the sanity waterline". We can't sit by and let you be insane. I for one encourage people to spend as much to as necessary to talk sense to you. You signed up for this when you made the post.

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 22 August 2013 11:17:25PM -2 points [-]

... D'awww. :)

I love how, sometimes, Lesswrongers can be so sweet in this totally unique and awesome way. :3

However, I actually meant "insane" in the same way FAI and cryonics are insane.

However however... Inferential distance!

This is how I have come to feel:

Don't try to explain people into caring about anything important.

If I really know the important things that I believe I know, then I should be able to use that knowledge to do amazing things. Things people can experience.

Then people will come to me begging for explanations.

I will say only that we have access to a Theory of Instruction that is to the field of education what Newton's Principia was to the field of physics. If you're really interested, then I could give you a fascinating reading list (and what is "libgen"?), but I aint gonna explain much. I've got engineering skills to teach myself, and there's a lot of bootstrapping to be done! :D

Comment author: Baughn 22 August 2013 06:20:51PM *  1 point [-]
Comment author: Owen_Richardson 22 August 2013 07:12:06PM *  -2 points [-]

... Yes, thank you for pointing out the exact conjunction used in the original meme that I was riffing on. Definitely the key point. xD

("sarcastic only actually genuinely genial")

Comment author: shminux 22 August 2013 06:19:01PM *  0 points [-]

What's your plan B, in case your startup fails (most do)? If your answer is "it won't", I recommend sparing yourself the agony and buying $13k worth of lottery tickets.

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 22 August 2013 07:04:41PM *  0 points [-]

The worse case scenario is that a year from now we end up having to work a couple days a week slinging coffee/janitoring etc! :3

Better case scenarios are like (quoting muflax) "3 months programming, 9 months living off savings".

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