Comment author: Alsadius 13 April 2012 02:46:13PM *  1 point [-]

"Remarkably", no. But at a school where kids as young as 11 go, it'll perhaps seem incongruous. And again, we have an example of a couple kids still in highschool conceiving a kid somewhere they got caught at it - if birth control was both easy and well-taught then that's unlikely to have happened.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 14 April 2012 03:56:03AM 2 points [-]

I had sex ed at that age. I think it was a remarkably unproductive use of time for most of the people in there. But there was a least one girl who was pregnant the next year, so it's possible that it prevented further pregnancy.

Sex education does not prevent all pregnancy any more than driver's education prevents all accidents. Kids both fuck and fuck up.

Comment author: Alsadius 13 April 2012 02:43:56PM 0 points [-]

Why would he need backup to kill a baby? We've seen him do more dangerous things(e.g., sitting in Hogwarts for a year scheming) without backup.

And yes, the sacrifice story comes from canon, not MoR. Still, with no other hints, that gives it a pretty high prior probability.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 14 April 2012 03:41:50AM 0 points [-]

Why would he need backup to kill a baby?

People protect babies and it would be reasonable to expect that people would work especially hard to protect babies that are prophesied to save the world from an evil villain. It turns out that his enemies were idiots and suffered a single point of failure, but even if he thought he knew that the target would be under protected the smart thing to do is not to depend on his quisling and go in alone.

And yes, the sacrifice story comes from canon, not MoR. Still, with no other hints, that gives it a pretty high prior probability.

How high is this canon bonus to probability of yours? Would you say that Aberforth was probably a zoophile just because he was in canon? Or that Ron and Hermione will probably get together because they did in canon? Or that Snape will kill Dumbldedore because he did in canon?

Comment author: thomblake 13 April 2012 02:17:20PM 2 points [-]

World War II had a different story in Harry Potter, and it's a bit clearer in MoR. It was sparked by Grindlewald's desire to have dominion over the muggles - the muggle war was just a reflection of the wizarding war going on at the same time. Grindlewald was the real power in Germany, and Hitler just a pawn. The reason Dumbledore couldn't take down Grindlewald until the war was over, was that Hitler was fueling Grindlewald's power using dark rituals involving the blood sacrifice of millions of muggles.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 14 April 2012 03:34:43AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, that is one of the holes in this thing.

Riddle probably got his idea to exchange heroism for power from somewhere else.

Comment author: [deleted] 13 April 2012 01:35:53PM 0 points [-]

Well, you get to pick your race and your class (middle), and assuming you roll 3d6 for stats the odds are at least one of your results will be 14 or better, so none of those attributes are at risk.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 14 April 2012 03:31:16AM 0 points [-]

Well, you get to pick your race and your class (middle)

Pfft

I'd stick with the Human race. I don't like the lack of supplemental material for the others. They're really under developed.

I have serious doubts that class in the sense you use it in could possibly be elective. The spread just doesn't match any decision making process I'd want to relate to.

Comment author: wedrifid 13 April 2012 07:22:08AM 0 points [-]

Wizards are just healthier. There isn't a solid, hard science fiction explanation for why they heal faster and shrug off harder hits. They just do.

Unlike in Dresdenverse where I just finished reading Butters giving an analysis (when he should have been working out how to escape from zombies!)

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 13 April 2012 07:43:01AM 0 points [-]

Unlike in Dresdenverse where I just finished reading Butters giving an analysis

That scene is exactly what I was thinking of.

Comment author: see 12 April 2012 06:12:08PM 10 points [-]

Suddenly has a history of setting up both sides of a conflict

Hmm? We have no good evidence to distinguish between the following two hypotheses:

  • Voldemort was playing both sides of things up until 1973, when he dropped one side for some reason
  • When Voldemort embarked on the Quirrell deception, he knew investigation would reveal that he wasn't actually Quirrell, so he deliberately dropped hints that would deceive investigators into believing he was a hero who, in reality, died back in 1973.

All we know is Quirrell has let hints drop that he was the hero who disappeared. There is no reason to expect that any of his hints are anything other than deliberate lies. If a competent investigation would discover that Qurrell's not really Qurrell, then the deception absolutely requires a second layer to last the year, so people like Bones can feel satisfied that they've discovered "the truth" about Quirrell without suspecting he's Voldemort. The existence of this second-layer deception now does not provide any evidence that the same deception existed eighteen years earlier.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 13 April 2012 07:40:57AM 3 points [-]

Hmm? We have no good evidence to distinguish between the following two hypotheses...

Yeah we do. When EY writes that the heroic Scion of X vanished while traveling Ablania in 45 he is telling the readers that Voldemort took him by making a shout out to what happened to Quirrell in canon.

The Ablanian Shuffle is good evidence.

Comment author: Alsadius 13 April 2012 12:03:15AM -2 points [-]

That seems spectacularly stupid for someone as smart as we've observed him to be.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 13 April 2012 07:37:42AM 0 points [-]

You should say what part is stupid.

Comment author: Alsadius 12 April 2012 11:45:55PM 0 points [-]

What house incongruence? Mystery Man was a Slytherin, as was Riddle.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 13 April 2012 07:35:15AM 2 points [-]

He means that Tom Riddle isn't connected to any noble house but Scion of X was. So it is incongruent that people would just to think that Scion of X was Tome Riddle.

Born or married house, not sorted house.

Comment author: Alsadius 13 April 2012 02:12:27AM 2 points [-]

I cannot parse that.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 13 April 2012 07:33:30AM 0 points [-]

The circumstances we are given in MOR do not require or imply a sacrifice. There are no hints that Harry was saved by a sacrifice. I can't think of any hints about any reason at all that he was saved, really.

If Vodlemort hears of a threat that is an infant and he takes that threat seriously enough to do something about an infant, we are not told anything about Voldemort that makes it in character for him to confront a threat like that alone.

That is, there is more than one problem with the story we have concerning the night Harry's parents died.

Comment author: thomblake 11 April 2012 02:51:05PM 11 points [-]

Tom Riddle grew up in the shadow of WWII. He saw much of the Muggle world unite...

Tom didn't want to be Hitler...

In case it's relevant, remember that Hitler was just a muggle pawn of Grindlewald, and the Holocaust existed to fuel Gindlewald's dark rituals.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 13 April 2012 07:27:26AM 0 points [-]

I'm sorry. I don't understand what you're suggesting. Please say more about your point.

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