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Comment author: Vaniver 19 January 2017 07:11:19PM 22 points [-]

Two notes on things going on behind the scenes:

  1. Instead of Less Wrong being a project that's no org's top focus, we're creating an org focused on rationality community building, which will have Less Wrong as its primary project (until Less Wrong doesn't look like the best place to have the rationality community).

  2. We decided a few weeks ago that the LW codebase was bad enough that it would be easier to migrate to a new codebase and then make the necessary changes. My optimistic estimate is that it'll be about 2 weeks until we're ready to migrate the database over, which seems like it might take a week. It's unclear what multiplier should be applied to my optimism to get a realistic estimate.

Comment author: Raemon 21 January 2017 03:08:12PM 1 point [-]

I'm curious what plans you have re: open source accessibility on the new codebase?

It might be cool to get the minimum viable version up and running, with a focus on making the documentation necessary to contribute really good, and then do a concerted push to get people to make various improvements.

That may not work, but it'd be an obvious time to try for it.

Comment author: lifelonglearner 21 January 2017 02:38:20AM 0 points [-]

Thanks!

Comment author: Raemon 21 January 2017 02:40:20AM 0 points [-]

Lists and Headers are especially vulnerable.

Comment author: lifelonglearner 21 January 2017 02:34:03AM 0 points [-]

Yeah. When I first posted this, It turned to Times New Roman, which looked really bad. I had to transfer it to Word, change the font, and then repaste it here. Do you know specifically what's going on?

Comment author: Raemon 21 January 2017 02:36:36AM 2 points [-]

LW parses formatting differently than Word or Wordpress.

What I end up doing is writing the document in a plaintext file, and then copy it into both LW and other blogs if I'm putting it in other blogs.

Comment author: Raemon 21 January 2017 02:24:01AM 0 points [-]

Mild note: one unfortunate thing about current-gen LW is that copy-pasting from blogs produces weird artifacts (which seems to be happening here)

In response to Project Hufflepuff
Comment author: lifelonglearner 20 January 2017 02:52:22AM 2 points [-]

Also plausibly Hufflepuff relevant:

What are everyone's thoughts on starting a "Projects in Progress" thread? If you're working on something that you think others in the community might know people relevant to or want to help out, you can post it there.

I know .impact has a huge collection of global projects, but I'm thinking more specifically rationality-related and small scale things that you maybe just need a quick boost, e.g. an initial proofread, for.

EX: I'm currently working on compiling research on habit formation. If anyone can name-drop some researchers or link some papers, that'd be great.

Comment author: Raemon 21 January 2017 12:05:05AM 0 points [-]

Cool. :)

I think this has happened on occasion, but not in any regular fashion, and I think it'd be a good idea to start such a thread every once-in-a-while

In response to Project Hufflepuff
Comment author: evand 19 January 2017 06:55:15PM 4 points [-]

I strongly favor this project and would love to read more on the subject. I'm hopeful that its online presence happens here where I'm likely to read it, and that it doesn't vanish onto Tumblr or Facebook or something similarly inaccessible.

In response to comment by evand on Project Hufflepuff
Comment author: Raemon 20 January 2017 11:55:48PM *  3 points [-]

My plan is to post on both FB and Less Wrong, and Leah Libresco has volunteered to copy everything tidily into a central wordpress blog (that should come with a handy RSS feed)

(Fake edit: I just went and created projecthufflepuff.wordpress.com, and added Leah as an admin. It currently is empty)

Anyone who makes a FB post relating to this should use the #ProjectHufflepuff hashtag and set the privacy to "public", so you can easily find them all here: https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=%23projecthufflepuff

I'll crosspost everything major on LW, and aim to do at least a few flagship posts that I'd try to get promoted into main.

Comment author: Vaniver 20 January 2017 10:55:49PM 2 points [-]

Reddit, Hacker News, and similar sites work on the "title goes to source, comments go to comments" model. I suspect it will be more expectation-violating overall to have different behavior here. (I agree that there is an expectation shift in going from LW as a place with only self-posts to a place with linkposts.)

Comment author: Raemon 20 January 2017 11:42:12PM *  0 points [-]

For the record, Hacker News and Reddit also annoy me every time this happens.

I do think it was a fine design choice given that it does seem to work for a lot of people.

But I'd personally rather have a convention where you click the link, and then see a typical discussion page with short summary / conversation prompt, followed by comments all in one place.

In response to On Arrogance
Comment author: Raemon 20 January 2017 01:19:56AM 2 points [-]

Positive reinforcement for exactly the sort of post I'd like to see. (specifically, it's starting a useful conversation, and it makes it's point quickly and enjoyably)

I think dividing arrogance into it's component parts is pretty key. I'll hopefully write more on this when I have more time. I also think it's helpful to dive into why (and when) dismissiveness is a problem.

Comment author: Raemon 20 January 2017 12:32:32AM 8 points [-]

I very much want an atmosphere where people feel encouraged to post things and not stressed out about "doing a good enough job." But hopefully, ALSO have an atmosphere where people are focused on improving their writing. I think good writing is the limiting factor here. We can't get there if we're too stressed out about it but I do think it requires some focus on craftsmanship, i.e. what writing elements make for a good post?

I actually want shorter posts, expressing an idea concisely to prompt discussion. I almost don't care what the topic is (I assume if it's posted by a LWer it's probably interesting).

(Or rather - I want posts to be as short and interesting as-is possible, to cover the material. For example, if doing a survey of a field, I'd prefer a tldr that summarizes it with bullet points, and then have the actual essay briefly discuss the most interesting avenues of discussion)

Comment author: Raemon 20 January 2017 12:58:06AM 12 points [-]

I'd actually like to see, instead of link posts, posts with a short description of the link that summarizes the key information and asks a few interesting questions about it. (I feel like otherwise I have do a lot more up-front work to start a discussion, and so would everyone else. One person kicking things off can make the rest of the discussion more frictionless)

Comment author: Raemon 20 January 2017 12:32:32AM 8 points [-]

I very much want an atmosphere where people feel encouraged to post things and not stressed out about "doing a good enough job." But hopefully, ALSO have an atmosphere where people are focused on improving their writing. I think good writing is the limiting factor here. We can't get there if we're too stressed out about it but I do think it requires some focus on craftsmanship, i.e. what writing elements make for a good post?

I actually want shorter posts, expressing an idea concisely to prompt discussion. I almost don't care what the topic is (I assume if it's posted by a LWer it's probably interesting).

(Or rather - I want posts to be as short and interesting as-is possible, to cover the material. For example, if doing a survey of a field, I'd prefer a tldr that summarizes it with bullet points, and then have the actual essay briefly discuss the most interesting avenues of discussion)

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