Comment author: James_Miller 21 February 2014 04:08:26PM 15 points [-]

My model of how liberals think, based on teaching at a left wing college, is that liberals find "politically incorrect" views disgusting.

Comment author: Randy_M 24 February 2014 10:36:50PM 0 points [-]

I thought the research was that liberals didn't have purity axis of morality (Haidt, is it?).

Comment author: cousin_it 23 February 2014 06:13:21PM *  -2 points [-]

Duh, hot water helps when something's frozen.

Comment author: Randy_M 24 February 2014 08:53:16PM 0 points [-]

A little water holds a lot of heat, comparitively.

Comment author: shminux 18 February 2014 05:20:16PM -1 points [-]

... I didn't realize my comment was so unclear as to need summarizing.

Comment author: Randy_M 18 February 2014 08:36:39PM -1 points [-]

In other words, he didn't think your comment added much to his original.

Comment author: ancientcampus 07 February 2014 06:16:52PM 1 point [-]

True. I think hardly anyone on either side would use the term "anti-science". The terms aren't important, but rather the article is referring to the "us-vs-them" mentality.

Also, I like the term "competitor priesthood."

Comment author: Randy_M 10 February 2014 03:50:19PM 2 points [-]

Google only turns up "About 915,000,000 results" for anti-science.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 03 February 2014 11:44:34PM 5 points [-]

I haven't seen Her yet, but this reminds me of something I've been wondering about.... one of the things people do is supply company for each other.

A reasonably competent FAI should be able to give you better friends, lovers, and family members then the human race can. I'm not talking about catgirls, I'm talking about intellectual stimulation and a good mix of emotional comfort and challenge and whatever other complex things you want from people.

Is this a problem?

Comment author: Randy_M 03 February 2014 11:59:34PM 1 point [-]

Well, assuming you mean "ai in an undiscernable facsimile of a human body" then maybe that's so, and if so, it is probably a less blatant but equally final existential risk.

Comment author: chaosmage 03 February 2014 12:23:49PM 6 points [-]

Since we're already at the anecdote level: A friend of mine saw a LASIK surgeons conference at his university and he says they're all wearing glasses.

Comment author: Randy_M 03 February 2014 07:42:56PM 4 points [-]

That is good evidence, but I'd disbelieve its reliability a bit because it is so funny. Like obese dieticians, or non-rich investment brokers, or divorced marriage counselors.

Comment author: MathiasZaman 30 January 2014 03:33:43PM 2 points [-]

I'm occasionally still amazed that traffic works as well as it does. I must say I'm hesitant at using this example to claim that people are more capable than you might think. Driving is just something humans happen to be competent at. There are plenty of things roughly as complicated as driving a car that people aren't surprisingly good at.

This also reminded my of something people said at the latest meetup. At least two people told me they had deliberately tried to get more scared of driving, because they had noticed they had less fear in a car than on a plane despite planes being safer.

Comment author: Randy_M 30 January 2014 04:20:06PM *  7 points [-]

Driving is just something humans happen to be competent at.

I don't think it is pure chance, since it was designed in iterations around human capabilites.

Comment author: James_Miller 28 January 2014 08:02:59PM 2 points [-]

Yes, I'm an academic and I get a similar reaction from telling people I study the Singularity as when I say I've signed up for cryonics. Thankfully, I have tenure.

Comment author: Randy_M 29 January 2014 08:35:49PM 0 points [-]

Do you actually say you "study the singularity" or give a more in depth explanation? I ask because the word study is usually used only in reference to things that do or have exisited, rather than to speculative future events.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 28 January 2014 04:47:33AM 1 point [-]

Thanks for writing this up.

this definitely seems like something that's worth researching more because it literally affects every single day of your life

Lots of things fall in to this category :)

"A person's body, during an average day in a temperate climate such as the United Kingdom, loses approximately 2.5 litres of water.[citation needed]"

In case it's not obvious: this probably means in the absence of food/fluid consumption. You can't go on losing 2.5 litres of water a day indefinitely.

Comment author: Randy_M 28 January 2014 06:22:19PM 0 points [-]

I assumed it wasn't net, but the amount of water excreted, regardless of consumption. Though those probably are not unrelated processes.

Comment author: asr 28 January 2014 02:11:17PM *  1 point [-]

Yes.

However, it might be that the ends towards which virtue is a means aren't ethical ends. Somebody might care about consequences, but reserve their moral judgement for the process by which people try to achieve their consequences. It might be that people are good or bad, but states of the world are just desirable or undesirable.

For example, let's suppose it's desirable to be wealthy. This can happen in several ways., One individual, A, got wealthy through hard work, thrift, and the proper amount of risk-taking. Another, B, got lucky and winning the lottery.

Both A and B wind up with the same amount of money, but A got there by exhibiting virtue, and B didn't. A virtue ethicist can say "A is a better person than B", even though the consequence was the same.

I suppose you could say "A and B's choices have the same consequence for their bank balance, but different consequences for their own personal identity, and we have ethical preferences about that" But at this point, you're doing virtue ethics and wrapping it in a consequentialist interface.

I suspect all these different strands of ethical thought are really disagreeing about what to emphasize and talk about, but can be made formally equivalent.

Comment author: Randy_M 28 January 2014 02:32:41PM 1 point [-]

B didn't choose to win the lottery; B choose to play the lottery. Surely when considering whether an action would be good to take, one would have to consider all the attempts that didn't lead to success?

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