Comment author: [deleted] 16 September 2015 08:20:43PM 2 points [-]

My typical heuristic for reliable experts (taken from Thinking Fast and Slow I think) is that if experts have tight, reliable feedback loops, they tend to be more trustworthy. Futurism obviously fails this test. Contrarianism isn't really a "field" in itself, and I tend to think of it more as a bias... although EY would obviously disagree.

In response to comment by [deleted] on Open thread, Sep. 14 - Sep. 20, 2015
Comment author: RobbBB 16 September 2015 11:09:59PM *  1 point [-]

My typical heuristic for reliable experts (taken from Thinking Fast and Slow I think) is that if experts have tight, reliable feedback loops, they tend to be more trustworthy. Futurism obviously fails this test.

Then it might be that futurism is irrelevant, rather than being expertise-like or bias-like. (Unless we think 'studying X while lacking tight, reliable feedback loops' in this context is worse than 'neither studying X nor having tight, reliable feedback loops.')

Contrarianism isn't really a "field" in itself, and I tend to think of it more as a bias...

Thiel, Yudkowsky, Hanson, etc. use "contrarian" to mean someone who disagrees with mainstream views. Most contrarians are wrong, though correct contrarians are more impressive than correct conformists (because it's harder to be right about topics where the mainstream is wrong).

Comment author: Lumifer 16 September 2015 04:18:36AM 1 point [-]

I don't think the average matters, it's the right tail of the distribution that's important.

Take, say, people with 130+ IQ -- that's about 2.5% of your standard white population and the overwhelming majority of them are not signed up. In fact, in any IQ quantile only a miniscule fraction has signed up.

Comment author: RobbBB 16 September 2015 07:37:32PM *  0 points [-]

entirelyuseless made the point that low cryonics use rates in the general population are evidence against the effectiveness of cryonics. James Miller responded by citing evidence supporting cryonics: that cryonicists are disproportionately intelligent/capable/well-informed. If your response to James is just that very few people have signed up for cryonics, then that's restating entirelyuseless' point. "The intellectual quality of some people who have NOT signed up for cryonics is exceptionally high" would be true even in a world where every cryonicist were more intelligent than every non-cryonicist, just given how few cryonicists there are.

Comment author: johnjohn 16 September 2015 07:35:28AM 1 point [-]

Is there a list of Scott Alexander's short stories somewhere?

Comment author: RobbBB 16 September 2015 07:18:44PM 4 points [-]

You can find some here: http://raikoth.net/fiction.html

Comment author: [deleted] 15 September 2015 01:21:49AM 5 points [-]

"What if you see Hanson, Thiel, Kurzweil, and Eliezer in the short line, ask them if you should get in the short line, and they say yes?"

As I pointed at last time you brought this up,these people aren't just famous for being smart, they're also famous for being contrarians and futurists. Cryonics is precisely an area in which you'd expect them to make a bad bet, because it's seen as weird and it's futuristic.

In response to comment by [deleted] on Open thread, Sep. 14 - Sep. 20, 2015
Comment author: RobbBB 16 September 2015 04:10:20AM 1 point [-]

This depends on whether you model contrarianism and futurism as a bias ('Hanson is especially untrustworthy about futurist topics, since he works in the area') v. modeling contrarianism and futurism as skills one can train or bodies of knowledge one can learn ('Hanson is especially trustworthy about futurist topics, since he works in the area').

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 05:26:57PM 5 points [-]

But the intellectual quality of some of the people who have signed up for cryonics is exceptionally high

The intellectual quality of some people who have NOT signed up for cryonics is exceptionally high as well.

Comment author: RobbBB 16 September 2015 04:06:32AM 1 point [-]

But the average is lower, and not signing up for cryonics is a "default" action: you don't have to expend thought or effort in order to not be signed up for cryonics. A more relevant comparison might be to people who have written refutations or rejections of cryonics.

Comment author: RicardoFonseca 15 September 2015 10:47:05PM *  4 points [-]

All right. Someone tell me if this is decent enough, please. I only did the first section: "Rationality and Rationalization".

Dropbox folder

How I did it:

  • Created an account at Instapaper and used their bookmarklet individually on each article.

  • Used calibre to download the articles from Instapaper and convert them to an ebook (instructions here).

  • Edited the title and other metadata in calibre to make the ebook more relevant and presentable and converted it to epub/mobi formats.

Note that I had to use the Instapaper bookmarklet starting from the last article and going backwards because calibre downloads the articles in reverse chronological order.

I don't think this is ideal, though, because the comment sections of some of these articles are good enough to be included in the reading but Instapaper only retrieves the article post, leaving out everything else. If anyone has a better suggestion, do share :)

Comment author: RobbBB 15 September 2015 11:37:16PM *  3 points [-]

Thanks, Ricardo! In MIRI's ebooks, we've tried linking to the comments section at the bottom of each article. Then people can click through to a website featuring the comments if they're interested; but the ebook itself isn't bloated by the size of the comments sections.

Comment author: casebash 25 August 2015 10:22:10AM 2 points [-]

Looking forward to seeing the list when it is done.

Comment author: RobbBB 15 September 2015 09:25:48PM 3 points [-]
Comment author: Clarity 14 September 2015 11:20:14AM *  3 points [-]

THANK YOU! Any chance for a brief summary of what each are (kinda like the LW Wiki does)

Comment author: RobbBB 15 September 2015 09:48:14AM 2 points [-]

Scott does tend to make his titles pretty cryptic. I could edit the LW version to include brief descriptions, leaving the version on my blog description-free for people who want a cleaner link list.

How much detail would be ideal? E.g., would 7 words per post be better than 20 words (since it'd be easier to skim such a list and spot quick keywords)?

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 14 September 2015 05:05:51PM 5 points [-]
Comment author: RobbBB 15 September 2015 09:38:13AM 8 points [-]

Mine is longer: 171 links vs. 111. Mine has more LW and less LJ content.

The lists are mostly independent: I started mine in December 2014. I decided to clean it up and post it now because casebash's version showed there was a lot of demand for something like this, and I wanted a version that was a bit more optimized for new readers to dive in and read straight through.

The two lists overlap quite a bit because so many of Scott's posts are objectively great. I also went through casebash's list and expanded my own list with five items that weren't originally on it: Revenge as Charitable Act, What's in a Name?, Epistemic Learned Helplessness, Approving Reinforces Low-Effort Behaviors, and Schizophrenia and Geomagnetic Storms.

The Library of Scott Alexandria

45 RobbBB 14 September 2015 01:38AM

I've put together a list of what I think are the best Yvain (Scott Alexander) posts for new readers, drawing from SlateStarCodex, LessWrong, raikoth.net, and Scott's LiveJournal.

The list should make the most sense to people who start from the top and read through it in order, though skipping around is encouraged too. Rather than making a chronological list, I’ve tried to order things by a mix of "where do I think most people should start reading?" plus "sorting related posts together."

This is a work in progress; you’re invited to suggest things you’d add, remove, or shuffle around. Since many of the titles are a bit cryptic, I'm adding short descriptions. See my blog for a version without the descriptions.

 


I. Rationality and Rationalization


II. Probabilism


III. Science and Doubt


IV. Medicine, Therapy, and Human Enhancement


V. Introduction to Game Theory


VI. Promises and Principles


VII. Cognition and Association


VIII. Doing Good


IX. Liberty


X. Progress


XI. Social Justice


XII. Politicization


XIII. Competition and Cooperation


 

If you liked these posts and want more, I suggest browsing the SlateStarCodex archives.

View more: Prev | Next