Comment author: MileyCyrus 07 November 2012 07:54:32PM 0 points [-]

Is there a limit to how long you can stay in China? Do they stop renewing student/tourist visas after a few years?

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 08 November 2012 05:41:03AM 0 points [-]

As far as I know student visas can be extended indefinitely. Being on your second tourist visa is okay, on your third risky and your fourth they will not extend it. I'm sure if you're actually travelling it'd be different but if you're obviously resident on a tourist visa they don't like it.

Comment author: D_Alex 05 November 2012 06:46:43AM 0 points [-]

Possibly from the air intakes located on the roof of the buildings. Pollution is much worse on street level than 20 stories up. At least in Jakarta, where I lived for 6 months.

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 05 November 2012 10:10:36AM 0 points [-]

If only. Chinese builders do not believe in central air conditioning. Every room gets its own damned air conditioner. Unless your budget is much, much greater than any teacher's will ever be.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 04 November 2012 03:45:43PM 1 point [-]

If you're working 8 hours a day, 30 days a month, that would mean you make 100 RMB per hour. But you said the minimum rate to charge is 150. Are you including unpaid hours in your 9 - 5?

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 04 November 2012 10:22:37PM 1 point [-]

Monday to Friday I am actually teaching for an hour and a half a day. If you're getting paid by the hour don't take less than 150. I'm getting paid by the month at that job. When I was working in public schools I'd teach maybe five 35 minute lessons and one hour long lesson a day. So I'd get paid for three hours fiftyfive minutes though I was there from eight to three. You can still save quite a bit.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 04 November 2012 08:46:23AM 0 points [-]

Any taxes?

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 04 November 2012 11:31:06AM 0 points [-]

Depends how well you negotiate. I got 15K in my “contract” for my non-visa job and actually get 13.9K. I have a friend who negotiates hard and then negotiates again if they yry and make him pay taxes. It works for him. But legally, yes.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 03 November 2012 03:22:06AM 0 points [-]

I am currently saving about 2,000 dollars a month working approximately 9-5 every day.

You're saying you have $2000 USD leftover at the end of the month after all your expenses are paid? That's incredible.

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 04 November 2012 05:41:24AM 1 point [-]

I work every day and make a little under 24,000 RMB a month. That's 3,840 dollars. My rent is 2200 a month and that's my biggest non discretionary expense. I spend max 1000 a month on the metro and taxis and maybe 1000 each a week on alcohol and overpriced food and coffee. That's under 12000. This is with me cooking less since I came to Shanghai than I did in the average week at home. And if you're not a boozehound you can save even more.

And if you don't, strictly speaking, have enough money to set yourself up once you get over here you can get free accomodation by trading English tuition for accomodation. Normally kids and I've never had an extended conversation about it with anyone who's done it but I've met people who did it. And if the family you start with are shit there are plenty of others.

Comment author: RichardHughes 03 November 2012 11:58:25PM 1 point [-]

How are the worst-case-scenario recovery tools? I.E., if you're injured, do you risk bankruptcy from medical care? How's the crime risk? Long term health risks?

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 04 November 2012 05:22:51AM 1 point [-]

MileyCyrus appears to know more than me about the legal ins and outs. I have heard the required insurance referred to as bodybag insurance but at the same time I've friends who woke up in a hospital after an epilectic fit who just left. No one chased them for any money. I imagine if you go bankrupt you scrape together the money to go home and do so unless you've pissed off a powerful person enormously. I know of people who are in their third stay in prison for running gambling dens so whatever else they do they don't deport people for comparitively petty shit like going bankrupt. Or they might, if you declare it on the form applying for a new visa.

On a similar note, if the border guard or visa desk guy asks if you are working on a tourist or student visa the answer is no.

As far as violent crime goes I'd be surprised if Shanghai was as violent as New York or London. Gotta watch your wallet/purse/bag though. There are professionals all over.

Comment author: fortyeridania 03 November 2012 04:47:35AM 5 points [-]

Moreover, the local dialect differs from standard Mandarin, in case that interferes with your language goals.

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 03 November 2012 06:45:16AM 6 points [-]

True. Shanghainese/Wu is at least as different from Mandarin as French is from Spanish. But the majority of Shanghai residents are first or second generation immigrants. More or less everyone under the age of 40 speaks Mandarin to one extent or another.

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 03 November 2012 06:40:38AM 1 point [-]

Thank you Wesley.

Comment author: roland 02 November 2012 06:37:04PM 5 points [-]

How is the pollution in Shanghai?

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 02 November 2012 10:39:25PM 6 points [-]

Awful. If you have bad asthma don't go. It has improved steadily for the past five years but it's still quite, quite bad.

Comment author: roland 02 November 2012 06:47:54PM 3 points [-]

If you want to learn Mandarin every single other city in China is better,

What is so bad about Shanghai in this respect? Assuming someone really wants to learn Mandarin and put effort into it aren't there lots of possibilities for learning, including talking with local people?

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 02 November 2012 10:37:10PM 5 points [-]

Most people who speak good to great English, really. Most shops, barss and restaurants with staff who speak good English. The pressure to learn Chinese is substantially lower than elsewhere. You will not have the benefit of anything resembling total immersion.

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