Comment author: CronoDAS 19 April 2009 03:59:58AM 0 points [-]

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Comment author: Simulacra 21 April 2009 05:33:42AM *  0 points [-]

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Comment author: Simulacra 21 April 2009 03:04:47AM 1 point [-]

There has been some calling for applications of rationality; how can this help me win? This combined with the popularity and discussion surrounding "Stuck in the middle with Bruce" gave me an idea for a potential series of posts relating to LWers pastimes of choice. I have a feeling most people here have a pastime, and if rationalists should win there should be some way to map the game to rational choices.

Perhaps articles discussing "how rational play can help you win at x" and "how x can help you think more rationally" would be worthwhile. I'm sure there are games or hobbies that multiple people share (as was discovered relating to Magic) and even if no one has played a certain game the knowledge gained from it should be generalizable and used elsewhere (as was the concept of a Bruce).

I might be able to do a piece on Counter-Strike (perhaps generalized to FPS style games) although I haven't played in several years.

I know I would be interested in more discussion of how Magic and rationality work together. In fact I almost went out an picked up a deck to try it out again (haven't played since Ice Age when I was but a child) but remembered I don't know anyone I could play with right now anyway, which is probably why I don't.

Comment author: Emile 20 April 2009 12:57:43PM 1 point [-]

I'm not sure that's something worth studying here - it's kinda sneaky and unethical.

Comment author: Simulacra 21 April 2009 02:25:37AM 4 points [-]

I would say it is certainly something worth studying, the understanding of how it works would be invaluable. We can decide if we want to use it to further our goals or not once we understand it (hopefully not before, using something you don't understand is generally a bad thing imho). If we decide not to use it, the knowledge would help us educate others and perhaps prevent the 'dark ones' from using it.

Perhaps something a la James Randi, create an ad whose first half uses some of the techniques and whose second half explains the mechanisms used to control inattentive viewers with a link to somewhere with more information on understanding how its done and why people should care.

Comment author: Lightwave 19 April 2009 05:40:32PM *  1 point [-]

Given the stakes, it seems to me the most rational thing to do here is to try to convince the other person that you should both cooperate, and then defect.

The difference between this dilemma and Newcomb is that Newcomb's Omega predicts perfectly which box you'll take, whereas the Creationist cannot predict whether you'll defect or not.

The only way you can lose is if you screw up so badly at trying to convincing him to cooperate (i.e. you're a terrible liar or bad at communicating in general and confuse him), that instead he's convinced he should defect now. So the biggest factor when deciding whether to cooperate or defect should be your ability to convince.

Comment author: Simulacra 19 April 2009 08:01:50PM 1 point [-]

If you don't think you could convince him to cooperate then you still defect because he will, and if you cooperate 0 people are saved. Cooperating generates either 0 or 2 billion saved, defecting generates either 1 or 3 billion saved. Defect is clearly the better option.

If you were going to play 100 rounds for 10 or 20 million lives each, cooperate by all means. But in a single round PD defect is the winning choice (assuming the payout is all that matters to you; if your utility function cares about the other persons feelings towards you after the choice, cooperate can become the highest utility)

Comment author: Simulacra 18 April 2009 01:13:14AM *  2 points [-]

I'm going with number 3, battletoads was hard! :(

My five:

1) I have the complete Feynman Lecture Series

2) I have beaten professional Counter-Strike players while never having played in any tournaments or leagues.

3) I am a smoker (cigarettes).

4) I never finished Half-Life.

5) My watch has Mickey Mouse on it (his hands point to the time!).

Comment author: Simulacra 19 April 2009 01:24:42AM 0 points [-]

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Comment author: CronoDAS 18 April 2009 02:29:23AM 1 point [-]

I assume that #2 refers to beating them at Counter-Strike...

Comment author: Simulacra 18 April 2009 03:06:29AM 0 points [-]

it does.

Comment author: jimrandomh 18 April 2009 01:01:00AM 2 points [-]

I think it's (2). To win a 7/SS+top 8 tournament, you would definitely need at least 4 and probably 5 wins in the main tournament, plus three wins in elimination. The rules of the Swiss system don't allow any player to receive more than one bye, so you would need to have had 4 wins, 1 bye, and at least 2 but probably 3 forfeits. Online tournaments may be different, but of all the Swiss tournaments I've played in, I have only ever seen one forfeit, so the same player getting multiple forfeits is highly unlikely.

Comment author: Simulacra 18 April 2009 01:38:00AM *  0 points [-]

Only piece of information we're missing is how many people started in the tournament which would allow us to find out how many points he would need to get top8.

You sound like you know what a Magic tournament is about way more than I do (don't know what counts as a draw, or if there even is such a thing) and have revised my estimates accordingly.

(1) .1 (2) .35 (3) .35 (4).18 (5).02

5 is low due to pjeby's comment, the .02 is my probability that he would slash my tires or is wrong.

Comment author: Simulacra 18 April 2009 01:13:14AM *  2 points [-]

I'm going with number 3, battletoads was hard! :(

My five:

1) I have the complete Feynman Lecture Series

2) I have beaten professional Counter-Strike players while never having played in any tournaments or leagues.

3) I am a smoker (cigarettes).

4) I never finished Half-Life.

5) My watch has Mickey Mouse on it (his hands point to the time!).

Comment author: billswift 16 April 2009 03:27:04PM *  6 points [-]

Much more than finding out who voted what way, I'd like to see the total upvotes and downvotes on a comment. It would be very useful to know if I got 5 upvotes and 5 downvotes or if the comment just sat there getting nothing. I'd much rather know how many people found it interesting or useful than who didn't like it. The original comment also wasn't thought through - if the "community as a whole to be united against them" occurred they'd get trashed, not a few down votes.

Off-thread: I recently up voted a comment with -7 votes, because I thought it was worth reading even though probably wrong.

Comment author: Simulacra 17 April 2009 03:56:25AM *  0 points [-]

Something like reddit commentroversy would be nice as a feature of the site. Sadly it doesn't work on LW, maybe I'll try to look at it and figure out if there is a possible hack to getting working until (if) the feature is implemented here.

A random comment I selected to show what it looks like [Username Changed]:

username 70 points(+184/-116) 7 hours ago[-]

If anyone uses reddit and doesn't have this get the greasemonkey add-on then go back to the commentroversy and click install.

Comment author: AnnaSalamon 17 April 2009 01:38:25AM 0 points [-]

Thanks for the suggestions. I added a separate question asking if respondants are currently in school. I added a happiness option per your suggestion (which means the first 45 responses will be to a different questionnaire, but we can keep that in mind). Your other suggestions make sense, but I'm refraining to avoid changing questions midstream.

Comment author: Simulacra 17 April 2009 03:10:32AM 0 points [-]

Should those of us that know we are in the first 45 responses retake the survey? It looks like a number of things have changed since I took it. My default assumption is no as I don't want to duplicate, but I thought I'd ask.

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