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The word savory long predates our modern understanding of umami. So when people use it, they could be using either the older, more general definition, or the newer, more specific definition. That is, before we knew that umami was a basic taste which represented glutamate receptors, other things that are related to umami would be considered part of the category of savory, like the experience of eating meat, for example. It seems a little bit silly that people chose to coopt an existing word to refer to a more specific phenomenon, but it's probably not the first time it has happened (although examples elude me at the moment).
Hm; I was under the impression that, like, the old extension and the new extension were essentially the same -- pointing to the same cluster of things -- and the discovery of the glutamate receptor just clarified what it was exactly that that cluster had in common. I hadn't considered the possibility that the word was actually used more generally in the past.
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Uncategories and empty categories
Huh. I realize this has little to do with the actual point, but -- I had generally taken "savory" to refer to the basic "umami" taste. The chowhounds discussion is in that respect a little... scary? Not sure that's the right word. That said, I'm not sure that (aside from the question asker, who may get the wrong idea from the provided answers) that the answerers actually think it means "not sweet"; they might have the same extension as me in mind, and are just failing to express it in a helpful way.
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Open and closed mental states
Since you specifically use the term "open" and "closed" mental states, I have to wonder about the relation to "open mode" and "closed mode" as discussed e.g. here or here. (The actual John Cleese video these are referring to seems to be no longer publically available -- or at least, the part that talks about "open" and "closed", anyway.)
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Link: Simulating C. Elegans
I haven't thought about this much since 2011 [1] but I think what they've done in hardware is something previously people have done in software. It doesn't sound like they (or anyone else) has been able to demonstrate learning on their simulated nematode.
EDIT: Expanded this into a post.
[1] I looked into nematode simulations several years ago, and talked to a few people including Stephen Larson at the Open Worm project: http://www.jefftk.com/p/whole-brain-emulation-and-nematodes
Thanks, I didn't think to check about people doing this in software earlier.
Link: Simulating C. Elegans
http://radar.oreilly.com/2014/11/the-robotic-worm.html
Summary, as I understand it: The connectome for C. elegans's 302-neuron brain has been known for some time, but actually doing anything with it (especially actually understanding it) has proved troublesome, especially because there could easily be relevant information about its brain function not stored in just the connections of the neurons.
However, the OpenWorm project -- which is trying to eventually make much more detailed C. elegans simulations, including an appropriate body -- recently tried just fudging it and making a simulation based on the connectome anyway, though in a wheeled body rather than a wormlike one. And the result does seem to act at least somewhat like a C. elegans worm, though I am not really one to judge that. (Video is here.)
I'm having trouble finding much more information about this at the moment. I don't know if they've actually yet released detailed technical information.
I would've entered! I loved the one-shot PD tournament last summer. In the future, please move popular tournament announcements to Main!
Yes, agreed. (I tried to write an entry for the one-shot tournament but never finished; I'd like to see that revisited sometime with a Scheme variant tailored for the contest.)
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2014 iterated prisoner's dilemma tournament results
Any reason I shouldn't move to Main and Promote?
Well, I'm a little annoyed seeing in Main the results of a tournament that was announced in Discussion... (not that I probably would have entered, but...)
Where from? I'll be coming from Ann Arbor.
Oh, thanks! I'm in Ann Arbor too! Since the comment above though torekp offered me a ride, so it's not necessary anymore. Thanks again though!
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Not a substantial comment, but -- would you mind fixing the arXiv link to point to the abstract rather than directly to the PDF? From the abstract one can click through to the PDF, not so the reverse, and from the abstract you can see other versions of the paper, etc. (And you've made getting back to the abstract from the PDF a bit more annoying than usual as you've linked to it at some weird address rather than the usual one.) Thank you!