Where do you live, Snorri? I'm interested in this as well.
I live in Seattle. If you're further interested you can PM me for details.
Where can I go to exploit social influence to fight akrasia?
Briefly: I'm looking for a person (or group) with whom I can mutually discuss self improvement and personal goals (and nothing else) on a regular basis.
Also, note, this post is an example of asking a personally important question on LW. The following idea is not meant as a general mindhack, but just as something I want to try out myself.
We are unconsciously motivated by those around us. The Milgram experiment and the Asch conformity experiment are the two best examples of social influence that come to my mind, though I'm sure there are plenty more (if you haven't heard of them, I really suggest spending a minute).
I've tended to see this drive to conform to the expectations of others as a weakness of the human mind, and yes, it can be destructive. However, as long as its there, I should exploit it. Specifically, I want to exploit it to fight akrasia.
Utilizing positive social influence is a pretty common tactic for fighting drug addictions (like in AA), but I haven't really heard of it being used to fight unproductivity. Sharing your personal work/improvement goals with someone in the same position as yourself, along with reflecting on previous attempts, could potentially be powerful. Humans simply feel more responsible for the things they tell other people about, and less responsible for the things they bottle up and don't tell anyone (like all of my productivity strategies).
The setup that I envision would be something like this:
- On a chat room, or some system like skype.1
- Meet weekly at a very specific time for a set amount of time.
- Your partner has a list of the productivity goals you set during the previous session. They ask you about your performance, forcing you to explain either your success or your failure.
- Your partner tries to articulate what went wrong or what went right from your explanation (giving you a second perspective).
- Once both parties have shared and evaluated, you set your new goals in light of your new experience (and with your partner's input, hopefully being more effective).
- The partnership continues as long as it is useful for all parties.
I've tried doing something similar to this with my friends, but it just didn't work. We already knew each other too well, and there wasn't that air of dispassionate professionality. We were friends, but not partners (in this sense of the word).
If something close to what I describe already exists, or at least serves the same purpose, I would love to hear about it (I already tried the LW study hall, but it wasn't really the structure or atmosphere I was going for). Otherwise, I'd be thrilled to find someone here to try doing this with. You can PM me if you don't want to post here.
1. After explaining this whole idea to someone IRL, they remarked that there would be little social influence because we would only be meeting online in a pseudo-anonymous way. However, I don't find this to be the case personally when I talk with people online, so a virtual environment would be no detriment (hopefully this isn't just unique to me).
Edit (29/3/2015): Just for the record, I wanted to say that I was able to make the connection I wanted, via a PM. Thanks LW!
Have you changed your mind recently?
Our beliefs aren't just cargo that we carry around. They become part of our personal identity, so much so that we feel hurt if we see someone attacking our beliefs, even if the attacker isn't speaking to us individually. These "beliefs" are not necessarily grand things like moral frameworks and political doctrines, but can also be as inconsequential as an opinion about a song.
This post is for discussing times when you actually changed your mind about something, detaching from the belief that had wrapped itself around you.
Relevant reading: The Importance of Saying "Oops", Making Beliefs Pay Rent
Ah, yes that's much better isn't it. Am I allowed to change this? Sorry for being such a flagrant newcomer; it seems like I really need to tighten up my language.
EDIT: I've given it some thought and I think it has something to do with being active on Reddit, where there's lots of incentive to sensationalize your posts. I will be mindful of this going forward.
Sorry for being such a flagrant newcomer
Your concern for providing quality content is more valuable than any social hierarchy nonsense. Thanks for your contribution.
People, when predicting their own future outcomes, tend to give far too much weight to their intentions, goals, plans, desires, etc., and far to little consideration to the way things have turned out for them in the past.
I'm often curious about why we evolved in such a haphazard way. Sure, evolution gets stuck on local optima all the time, but this seems to imply that realistically modelling your peers and unrealistically modelling yourself has some sort of fitness payoff.
One day I realized that having patience and focusing on gradual improvement rather than quick fixes was necessary for deeply ingrained problems (like forms of akrasia).
Some others:
Taking breaks is not negotiable.
Maintaining social contact with someone is your responsibility, not theirs.
If you try to have too much control in your life, you'll become brittle and unable to handle unexpected changes.
"Willpower" is basically worthless. The best productivity strategy is to make productivity habitual.
4.5. You spend the vast majority of your waking day completely unconscious, doing whatever you're habitually used to doing.
Adopting political labels is a negative sum game.
The Danger of Invisible Problems
TL;DR: There is probably some costly problem in your life right now that you are not even aware of. It is not that you are procrastinating on solving it. Rather, this problem has gradually blended into your environment, sinking beneath your conscious awareness to the degree that you fail to recognize it as a problem in the first place.
This post is partially an elaboration on Ugh fields, but there are some decisive differences I want to develop. Let me begin with an anecdote:
For about two years I've had a periodic pain in my right thigh. Gradually, it became worse. At one point I actually had a sort of spasm. Then the pain went away for a few weeks, then it came back, and so forth. All the while I rationalized it as something harmless: "It will probably just go away soon," I would think, or "It only inhibits my mobility sometimes." Occasionally I would consider seeking medical help, but I couldn't muster the energy, as though some activation threshold wasn't being reached. In fact, the very promise that I could get medical help whenever convenient served to further diminish any sense of urgency. Even if the pain was sometimes debilitating, I did not perceive it as a problem needing to be solved. Gradually, I came to view it as just an unfortunate and inevitable part of existence.
Last Monday, after hardly being able to walk due to crippling pain, I finally became aware that "Wow, this really sucks and I should fix it." That evening I finally visited a chiropractor, who proceeded to get medieval on my femur (imagine having a sprained ankle, then imagine a grown man jumping on top of it). Had I classified this as a problem-needing-to-be-solved a few months earlier, my treatment period would probably be days instead of weeks.
Simply, I think this situation is of a more general form:
You have some inefficiency or agitation in your life. This could be solved very easily, but because it is perceived as harmless, no such attempt is made. Over time your tolerance for it increases, even if the problem is worsening (Bonus points for attempts at rationalizing it). This may be due to something like the peak-end rule, as the problem doesn't cause any dramatic peaks that stick out in your memory, just a dull pain underlying your experience. Even if the problem substantially lowers utility, your satisficing lizard brain remains apathetic, until the last moment, when the damage passes a certain threshold and you're jolted into action.
While similar to procrastination and akrasia, this does not involve you going against your better judgement. Instead, you don't have a better judgement, due to the blinding effects of the problem.
Possible Solutions:
I didn't solve my problem in a clever way, but I've begun employing some "early warning" techniques to prevent future incidents. The key is to become aware of the worsening inefficiency before you're forced to resort to damage control.
- Do a daily/weekly/monthly reflection. Just for a few minutes, try writing out in plain text what you currently think of your life and how you're doing. This forces you to articulate your situation in a concrete way, bypassing the shadowy ambiguity of your thoughts. If you find yourself writing things about your life that you did not previously know, keep writing, as you could be uncovering something that you'd been flinching from acknowledging (e.g. "Obligation X isn't as rewarding as I thought it would be"). A more elaborate formulation of this practice can be found here.
- I kind of feel that "mindfulness" has become a mangled buzzword, but the exercises associated with it are quite powerful when applied correctly. I've found that following my breath does indeed induce a certain clarity of mind, where acknowledging problems and shortcomings becomes easier. Using your own thought process as an object of meditation is another excellent method.
- While the previous two examples have been personal activities, other people can also be a valuable resource due to their uncanny ability to be different from you, thus offering multiple perspectives. However, I doubt expensive talk-therapy is necessary; some of my most useful realizations have been from IRC chats.
Economics:
- "Dirty medicine"
- Peak scientist
- "Slippery Business: The trade in adulterated olive oil"
- "The Industrial Revolution: Past and Future" (Lucas on the Great Divergence, economic growth, the Asian miracles, and redistributionism.)
- "Of Frightened Horses and Autonomous Vehicles: Tort Law and its Assimilation of Innovations", Graham 2012 (excerpts)
- "Beware the Middleman: Empirical Analysis of Bitcoin-Exchange Risk", Moore & Christin 2013 (excerpts)
- NASHX
- "Love, luck and destiny: the world according to a Mumbai matriarch"
- "Bacon: Why America's Favorite Food Mania Happened"
- "Nowhere is safe in EVE Online as Goonswarm suicide-bombs galactic trade hub" (shades of Eurisko)
- the Currin Trading Ponzi: part 1, part 2
- "When Korea's E-Sports was at the Brink of Death"
- "Google's Lost Social Network" (exit, voice, and loyalty)
- Obsolete occupations: breaker boy, crossing sweeper, dog whipper
- Old Economy Steven
Philosophy:
I'm always so impressed by how much you contribute to these threads. Thanks.
Thanks for the link.
I've been studying neural networks for a while and sometimes wondered how feasible this would be. It seems analogous to a human brain externally storing some of its memories in a rigid medium like a notebook.
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Really fantastic idea. I would suggest adding a way to tag predictions so that you can see how accurate you are within a particular domain. I would also suggest adding a way to see your accuracy over different timeframes (in order to view improvement). With those two features, this would definitely be an app I'd be willing to buy.