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Comment author: Lumifer 19 March 2017 01:01:13AM 0 points [-]

Oh, I always choose to giggle.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 22 March 2017 05:32:04PM 0 points [-]

Does this site have a report button?

Comment author: Lumifer 21 March 2017 06:31:27PM *  0 points [-]

Oh, dear, Buttercup will kick SO MUCH NON-NEWTONIAN ASS

X-D

Comment author: SnowSage4444 22 March 2017 05:29:00PM 0 points [-]

You don't know what newtonian means, do you?

Comment author: Lumifer 19 March 2017 01:00:36AM 0 points [-]

That kid's head merging with his ass?

Don't forget the non-newtonian fluid.

He had that under control

That's 'cause the Powerpuff Girls weren't there.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 21 March 2017 06:24:29PM 0 points [-]

Is everyone on this forum as stupid as you? If not, why aren't they saying anything?

Comment author: know24 18 March 2017 05:18:44PM 0 points [-]

This reads like what Scott Adams would call cognitive dissonance.

In particular it omits the fact that the (anti-Trump) CEO's of twitter and face have access to more data, and presumably better algorithms, but weren't able to swing the election. Almost as if it's easier to influence people if the direction you're trying to influence them agrees with their day-to-day observations. But that's way to scary a thought for the people at the guardian.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 18 March 2017 05:40:04PM 1 point [-]

Did we just become best friends?

Comment author: Lumifer 10 March 2017 03:37:06PM 0 points [-]

Looking at downvotes

There ain't no downvotes any more.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 18 March 2017 05:39:52PM 1 point [-]

What happened to the comments in this thread?

Comment author: DryHeap 09 March 2017 05:32:08PM 5 points [-]

I would imagine that there is evidence of bot usage on both sides of the aisle. There seems to be an effort to propagate anti-Trump messages on LessWrong, which I find to be partisan and largely out of the scope of this board.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 18 March 2017 05:38:26PM 1 point [-]

Whenever a place sinks into the #NeverTrump pit of stupidity, it never crawls back out.

Trump won because the left forgot how to argue rationally, and Trump knew how to make his supporters feel smart for not believing the paranoid moronic more-biased-every-day media. Trump outsmarted every leftist on the planet. At this point, he deserves America, and if he turns out to be half as bad as the libtards say he's going to be, he'll be kicked out in seconds. So why care? Why try to work people up into a paranoid frenzy, when that's failed once before and it'll fail again and again until the left learns how to admit its many flaws and mistakes and learn from them?

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Comment author: gjm 14 March 2017 05:45:56PM 1 point [-]

This article speculated about "self-reporting algorithm", so the latter seems more relevant here.

Well, the term "cis by default" was not created in response to this article, and is used in other contexts, so if you're going to

object against the name "cis by default"

then it seems like you need better reasons than that the name wasn't coined with this thread in mind. No?

isn't this a double standard?

I don't think so, but it's not 100% clear to me what you're saying is a double standard or who you're saying is applying that double standard. The thing I'm being doubtful about here is not anyone's "experiences and feelings", it's their (and my) extrapolation on the basis of those experiences and feelings to what they would experience and feel in hypothetical situations where, e.g., their body suddenly changed.

(Perhaps what you are saying about yourself doesn't involve any such extrapolation, in which case I may have misunderstood you. The reason why I think being "cis by default" generally does involve extrapolation is that when I call myself cis by default part of what I mean is "it seems to me that if I found myself in a different body I wouldn't be deeply upset by that, which differs from the self-reports of trans people who say they are deeply upset by finding themselves in the wrong sort of body".)

My own position, which seems coherent enough to me, is as follows:

  • If someone cares strongly about whether they're regarded as male, female, or something else, then in the absence of strong special reasons for doing otherwise we should go along with that preference.
    • If, for instance, they take on the considerable social cost of telling everyone that they want to be known by a new name, addressed with non-standard pronouns, etc., that is good evidence that they care strongly.
  • If someone doesn't much care, we should go along with whatever's easiest.
    • If, for instance, they generally live according to societal expectations of the gender that matches their outward appearance at birth, that suggests that either (a) they don't much care or (b) they do care and what they want is to be considered to belong to that gender; either way the "obvious" thing will work well.
  • The question "but what gender is this person really?" has either no definite answer or, if we pick a particular social context, a socially-determined answer.
    • As regards our own social context, we all get to influence what that socially-determined answer will be. I personally think a society in which the answer to "what gender are you?" is, barring strong special reasons to the contrary, determined by a person's own strong preferences when they exist, is better than most alternatives.
  • If someone says they're "cis by default" then I, by default, believe them. (Provisionally, because this is among other things a statement about how they'd feel in some hypothetical circumstance, and that's the kind of thing it's easy to be wrong about.) But any argument that takes as a premise something like "so-and-so many percent of the population are cis by default and wouldn't care if their bodies suddenly changed sex" is assuming more than we actually know.
  • If someone who appears (say) male by all other usual criteria says they're "really" a woman, I don't think "believe" is the right word for what I do in response, although "disbelieve" would be much worse. Rather, I don't think this is the sort of thing there's some kind of objective fact of the matter about; we get to choose how we classify people, and I'm happy to do that classifying -- for most purposes -- in ways that are strongly influenced by people's expressed gender identity.

Do you see a double standard anywhere in that?

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Comment author: SnowSage4444 18 March 2017 05:34:09PM 1 point [-]

cis

What is Feminism doing here? What are we, the Rationalists, or the Irrationalists?

Comment author: Lumifer 18 March 2017 03:26:38AM 1 point [-]

Oh, boy.

A quote from there:

The boy felt his back bend backwards against his will, stretching where it shouldn't have been possible, the top of his head touching his rear, the two merging together like a non-newtonian fluid.

I do hope Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup show up soon.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 18 March 2017 05:32:59PM 0 points [-]

http://archiveofourown.org/works/10343850/chapters/22880244

Chapter two is up. Would you like to read it, or would you like to giggle about your Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup fantasies?

Comment author: Lumifer 18 March 2017 03:34:02PM 1 point [-]

All I'm saying is that the Powerpuff Girls warping in have a chance to improve the situation.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 18 March 2017 03:35:51PM 0 points [-]

What situation? He had that under control. That kid's head merging with his ass? Might as well throw subtlety out the window and state it directly: JOJO'S STAND DID THAT.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 March 2017 03:26:38AM 1 point [-]

Oh, boy.

A quote from there:

The boy felt his back bend backwards against his will, stretching where it shouldn't have been possible, the top of his head touching his rear, the two merging together like a non-newtonian fluid.

I do hope Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup show up soon.

Comment author: SnowSage4444 18 March 2017 03:03:21PM *  0 points [-]

What?

This is JJBA, not Powerpuff Girls. You'd know this if you noticed that this story's Jojo is a good guy.

And that is justified in canon. Jonathan Joestar-Summers has a Stand, you'll see it soon.

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