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Comment author: Prometheus 24 August 2016 06:02:15PM 1 point [-]

I'm not sure if going to the bathroom is a "smart" adjustment between conscious and subconscious, or if it's closer to firing neurons in the region associated with it (that is to say, instead of a communication networks, it may be closer to just flipping on a switch). What would agree with the latter, is that studies show that the region of the brain associated with it is overly active when under the influence of alcohol. I think resting all day (and as a result, not wishing to do serious work) could probably be better explained by less blood flow to the brain (and as a result, less oxygen) due to lack of movement. On top of this, our bodies tend to operate in 12-hour cycles. If you are active for a while, your telling your brain it's in that 12-hour cycle. If your inactive, your telling it your in your inactive cycle.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 25 August 2016 06:06:47AM 1 point [-]

Prometheus, thank you for your intelligent comment. What you are saying is testable, and I plan to get more data on this. My experience seems to not be limited to 12-hour periods, but I'll specifically control for that for now on.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 23 August 2016 01:21:31PM 0 points [-]

What I know from reading the posts by the author of FPV suggests that the core of FPV is the algorithm of processing the list (with dots and so on). Just writing a disorganised list of all your tasks and crossing them out hardly seems to come from any specific "system", so I don't know which elements you mean when you say "[...] recognise elements from [FPV]".

I tend to do the same thing as the notches, only I write lttle tick marks.

Today has been a day full of suck and I don't know why but at least I wrote this out.

Haha, feels.

In response to Willpower Schedule
Comment author: gwern 22 August 2016 03:46:20PM 4 points [-]

Have you considered posting these things to your blog instead?

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Comment author: SquirrelInHell 23 August 2016 12:47:48AM 2 points [-]

I find your comment somewhat surprising - could you unpack it?

(E.g. what exactly was your reaction, what part or property of the post triggered it, how do you consider blogs different from LW discussion, do you have some general policies that govern what you do in such matters etc.?)

Comment author: ChristianKl 12 August 2016 08:27:34AM 0 points [-]

To me that seems like a misapplication. The politician who makes sure that his friends get forward can be at stage 3 without being idealistic.

A politician who is in a party because they want to advance capitalism or because they want to advance liberalism would likely be in stage 4 because their loyality is to the institution and not to people.

I have an impression of some politician who operate at the city level in Berlin that doesn't come through the media. I would categories those people mostly as stage 3 or stage 4.


How would you characterize yourself in Kagan's framework?

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 13 August 2016 03:24:16AM 0 points [-]

I'm not going to argue about this - as I said, I think the Kegan's model by itself is underspecified, and you can apply it in various ways to the same situation. Quite possible your application to politics makes more sense.

How would you characterize yourself in Kagan's framework?

If you are asking this question, you don't understand some critical things. Never ask this question.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 12 August 2016 08:11:41AM *  2 points [-]

I like that you analysed this topic, however after thinking about it I came to conclusions that are not compatible with your approach.

I do not believe you are suggesting any policy in practice that is substantially different from what I'd suggest.

However I want to oppose the "filter" approach, and suggest it is more growth-y to look at this differently.

The idea of using a "filter" on your communication sounds to me like it suggests "dressing up" or softening your statements, which blocks people from transferring their thoughts to other people. Which makes all the people involved lose.

Instead, I suggest to keep conversations healthy to such a degree, that you can say whatever it is you wanted to express. And also to preempt any misunderstanding by saying what you DON'T mean if the topic is sensitive.

But basically I strongly oppose the approach that assumes filtering communication.

It makes more sense to work on preparing ground to enable communication to happen more efficiently and without undue emotion/offense.

Comment author: ChristianKl 11 August 2016 10:02:48AM 0 points [-]

In politicians who in their lifetimes change from being idealistic to being self-serving and calculated, we will observe a period of backing off from politics in the middle of the change.

Why do you think that Kegan's model makes that prediction?

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 11 August 2016 01:56:20PM *  0 points [-]

Why do you think that Kegan's model makes that prediction?

I don't think it's fair to say that "Kegan's model makes that prediction" - the model itself (in the form I know it) is a little bit too vague for this. I'd rather say that I'm making that prediction USING Kegan's model, and I apply it to politics in this way:

  • idealistic politicians who are in it to help people = stage 3
  • gap = politicians who think politics doesn't make sense so they are not politicians anymore = stage 4
  • calculating politicians who are in it to play the system = stage 5
Comment author: HungryHobo 11 August 2016 11:44:48AM 1 point [-]

I remember having a similar discussion about HIV and anti-retroviral drugs.

In short, it's an easy position to take if you and the people you care about aren't currently in the firing line and making policy choices on assumptions about future discoveries that we can't guarantee is ethically problematic.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 11 August 2016 01:51:26PM 0 points [-]

I agree with you 100%, and I'm not really advocating to put anything off based on my argument. I am merely bringing it up to address it properly, i.e. be aware when a trade-off is being made on this scale.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 11 August 2016 09:16:34AM 0 points [-]

I am not ready to definitely accept the Kegan levels as a useful model because often it makes retrospective predictions. Rather than predictions of the future. A model is only as useful as what it can predict

OK, let's think about some predictions I can make from Kegan's model, about things I have no idea if they are true:

  1. There are significantly more people who go from caring emotionally about relations with colleagues at work to not caring, than the other way round.

  2. When adolescents become able to resist peer pressure, it is correlated with increased tendency to make commitments to themselves and others.

  3. In politicians who in their lifetimes change from being idealistic to being self-serving and calculated, we will observe a period of backing off from politics in the middle of the change.

  4. People who have trouble with social relationships, will also have trouble dealing with situations where the society formulated formal rules, but the optimal solution lies outside of those rules (such as law etc.).

I know that these are kind of vague, but that's what I could think of on the spot.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 11 August 2016 04:23:58AM *  1 point [-]

Yes; this approach is helpful and I do this too.

I would however add that a slight "nudge" is often not enough when it matters. You will reach to the back of the shelf, and eat the cookie.

In the end, there is not much that works except for not having any cookies in your house.

But what if you really care to do this right?

Then, I say, buy 1000 cookies. Then shout in a loud voice, "I WILL NEVER EAT A COOKIE AGAIN." Then dump the 1000 cookies in the garbage can. And do a happy dance, and repeat 50 times "I WILL NEVER EAT A COOKIE AGAIN".

Silly? Yes.

Works? Yes.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 10 August 2016 02:43:52AM 2 points [-]

If we are talking about PCs, then mounting filesystems read only is a killer: https://sites.google.com/site/linuxpendrive/rorootfs

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