Comment author: shminux 13 March 2015 04:47:17PM 0 points [-]

What actual lies (or literal truths intended to mislead) did Harry tell Draco? I don't recall any off hand.

Comment author: Subbak 13 March 2015 05:53:22PM 4 points [-]

Some long time ago he told Draco that Hermione was his enemy.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 13 March 2015 09:33:49AM *  0 points [-]

Thanks, good points.

But it doesn't explain how Harry would know.

Comment author: Subbak 13 March 2015 05:50:40PM 0 points [-]

Maybe he recognized the voice, assuming it was not disguised by a charm?

Comment author: RobbBB 13 March 2015 04:47:33AM 3 points [-]

He was restored from a V2 Horcrux that was too well-hidden: without the Resurrection Stone network (Horcrux V2.5?) he was dependent on someone touching his horcrux, which didn't happen for a long time.

Comment author: Subbak 13 March 2015 09:34:16AM 1 point [-]

Well, as he said, it was an "obviously hidden" horcrux screaming "I'm apowerful magical artifact" (like the locket in book 6, which he explicitly calls out), as opposed to a random pebble in the middle of the desert.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 13 March 2015 07:27:04AM 0 points [-]

Could you elaborate on the evidence pointing to White that you see? In what way is it more in line with canon?

Comment author: Subbak 13 March 2015 09:31:25AM 4 points [-]

Well, I read canon a loooong time ago but IIRC in book 7 in one of the first chapter Voldie goes around humiliating Lucius, in particular taking his wand without offering a replacement, and insulting him for believing he (Voldie) would give Lucius his wand in exchange. The conversation with Mr. White (" most delinquent of my servants") and the fact that he humiliates him similarly by removing part of his magic ability is reminiscent of that.

Also, before I thought Mr. Grim was Peter Pettigrew, but now that we know that Black is the actual bad guy, it's even clearer that Mr. Grim = Sirius Black. In particular, Voldie says to him "I was surprised to see you here tonight; you are more competent than I suspected", which in retrospect clearly means "I thought you were rotting in Azkaban".

Comment author: JoshuaZ 12 March 2015 07:37:20PM 7 points [-]

using codenames that seem to indicate who the person behind is when they in fact bear no relation sounds like a thing Voldie would do.

It is a thing Tom Riddle would do. The Voldemort personality seems to have been deliberately less clever.

Comment author: Subbak 12 March 2015 08:21:43PM 2 points [-]

Well, the Dark Mark was not THAT stupid. Also, it's the kind of clever thing you can only pull off when impersonating someone who is not that smart.

Comment author: ourimaler 12 March 2015 07:22:25PM 8 points [-]

Kind of glad Draco wouldn't give an answer to Harry - it's sad, but also entirely realistic. Would have strained my suspicion of disbelief if he'd just accepted to forgive and forget.

As for Narcissa... Sweet vindication. ...And then a gutpunch as she speaks her husband's name.

Comment author: Subbak 12 March 2015 07:35:17PM 3 points [-]

Well I guess eventually the right memories will come back to her. Although I guess Draco can't have been more than a few months old when she "died".

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 12 March 2015 07:23:00PM *  4 points [-]

So Mr. White was the one who was Lucius? Not Mr. Counsel, the one Voldemort chided for not conquering the country in his name and limiting himself to the Wizengamot?

What made Harry certain of that?

Comment author: Subbak 12 March 2015 07:33:55PM 2 points [-]

For what it's worth, I too thought Mr. White was Lucius before seeing everyone else convinced it was Counsel. It seemed more in line with canon, and "white" evokes Lucius's awesome white hair. On the other hand, Harry could be mistaken, and using codenames that seem to indicate who the person behind is when they in fact bear no relation sounds like a thing Voldie would do.

Comment author: Velorien 11 March 2015 07:27:44PM 0 points [-]

Hence the example I suggest - whatever price the Unbreakable Vow exacts, there will be things that are worth it, like not going to Azkaban.

Comment author: Subbak 11 March 2015 09:49:42PM -1 points [-]

Except people are cruel and many of them would rather see criminals in Azkaban than living a relatively normal life. Although to be honest, making criminals chose between Azkaban and the last part of A Clockwork Orangeis pretty awful already in my opinion.

Comment author: fezziwig 11 March 2015 02:40:36AM 4 points [-]

http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2015/03/a-quick-informal-post-on-yudkowskys.html

I think "stupid" is a little strong, personally. But I like the canon ending better.

Comment author: Subbak 11 March 2015 09:39:15PM 2 points [-]

Ugh... That's such a painful read I had to stop in the middle. Seriously, how is it rational for Harry to be insulting V in English? Even if V somehow does not take offense, one of his Death Eaters will. I know I felt like Adava Kadavra-ing the stupid brat who was pretending to be HJPEV in this...

Comment author: Nornagest 10 March 2015 08:12:30PM 3 points [-]

"Girl-Who-Revived" is... not a very euphonious phrase, is it?

Comment author: Subbak 11 March 2015 06:46:43PM 5 points [-]

How about "Unicorn Troll Jesus"?

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