It is the same thing.
Oh.. Erm.. I read that wrong. >_>
Facepalm
In more detail: the underlying principle here is called De Morgan's law. De Morgan's law is our name for the fact that to say that a cat is not both furry and white, is the same as saying that the cat is either not-furry or not-white (or both).
(More generally: the negation of a conjunction (respectively, disjunction) is the disjunction (respectively, conjunction) of the negations.)
Suppose we lived in a world with twenty cats. We could make a statement about all of the cats by saying "The first cat is furry and the second cat is furry and the third cat is furry and [...] and the twentieth cat is furry." But that would take too long; instead we just say, "Every cat is furry." Similarly, instead of "Either the first cat is white or the second cat is white or [...] or the twentieth cat is white," we can say, "There exists a white cat." Thus, the same principles that we use for and-statements ("conjunctions") and or-statements ("disjunctions") can be used on ("quantified") for every-statements and there exists-statements. "There does not exist a winged cat" is the same thing as "For every cat, that cat does not have wings" for the same reason that "It is not the case that either the first cat has wings or the second cat has wings" is the same thing as "The first cat does not have wings and the second cat does not have wings." That's de Morgan's law.
So, suppose there does not exist a person who does not die. De Morgan's law tells us that this is equivalent to saying that for every person, that person does not-not-die. But not-not-dying is the same thing as dying. But this is that which was to be proven.
This may seem like a silly question, but why isn't not-not-dying the same thing as dying?
Thanks for posting this TheatreAddict! I also didn't understand the equation, but didn't even think to ask what it meant.
I learned something new today because of you. :)
Awhh! :D You're welcome! It makes me happy knowing I helped someone.. Albeit inadvertedly. :]
Red(x) means "x is red." X = Y in this case means that X and Y are either both true or both false. All x : Bouncy(x) means that everything under consideration is bouncy. Exists x : Fluffy(x) means a fluffy thing exists. The sentence says "if everything dies, then nothing doesn't die" and vice versa. This is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic .
edit: And here are the fruits of google: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/52323/how-do-you-read-this-logical-statement-aloud-and-how-do-you-notate-it-in-symbol
Your first link doesn't work, but I'll check out the second one. I don't completely understand, but I understand more than I did before you commented, so thanks! :]
How to write a mathematical formula on the fear of death?
I was reading the Methods of Rationality, and I was reading the part about how it's irrational to fear death. Well I came across "All x: Die(x) = Not Exist x: Not Die(x)" I really don't get this.. I'm sorry, I'm not good at math. But does "x" here represent an unknown variable? If so, is it being like, multiplied when it's put in parenthesis? Could this be put into a simpler equation?
Because I totally get the part where you either have to want to keep living, because I want to live right now, I'll want to live tomorrow, so therefore I'll want to live forever. And then if I want to not live forever, it would mean that I don't really want to live very much.. Right?
This is what happens when someone who hasn't a clue about math and science reads a smart fanfiction. But if someone could either verify the part about "All x: Die(x) = Not Exist x: Not Die(x)" being the correct formula, and then explaining why, that would be like, really cool.
Thanks! :D
Any good visual images to explain complicated ideas?
I'm not really looking for anything in particular, but I just recently took a look at http://lesswrong.com/lw/fc/you_are_a_brain/ at You Are a Brain presentation. It was really good, and helped things click for me. Does anyone else have any recommendations for extreme beginners? I'm interested in learning most anything really, I've read a few of the Sequences, like the Mysterious Answers to Mysterious Questions, How to Actually Change Your Mind, and half of Reductionism. The Quantum Physics section looks really cool, but unfortunately it's beyond me, as of now. I'm trying to get teachers to help me, but it appears to be beyond them as well. But anyway, if you don't have any videos, pictures, or presentations, do you at least have any good textbooks to recommend? For beginners?
So... Does anyone know of any helpful presentations? My brain likes pictures. This was probably the most helpful thing I've come across on here. I'm 16, not the best at math and complex equations, so this sort of helped a lot of stuff click in my mind. :)
There are definitely approaches to QM that smack of subjective reality ("subjective" describing this one you of the many near-clones of you, one in each possible worlds each quantum mechanical outcome involving you creates, if you believe the MWI the way EY does). However, it is indeed best to stay away from the topic unless you are well versed in it.
Are you referring to staying away from the topic in the essay, or in general? Because I'll admit to being a complete layman on QM, but I do find it interesting. Mind-blowing and confusing, certainly, but interesting.
The topic of quantum mechanics should probably be avoided, unless you can expect the audience to have taken a course or read a book on quantum mechanics. Long story short, though, the "what if we create our own reality?" debate was indeed revived by quantum mechanics. The debate was then concluded, long ago, because this was science and not a debate club. Objective reality was not overturned.
"The debate was then concluded, long ago, because this was science and not a debate club."
Hahahaha. Fair enough point. I'll change that, I sort of wrote the introduction first, when I had done minimal research, and so when I saw that people still believed in subjective reality, I assumed that it was still a legit viewpoint, even though I disagreed with it. I'm glad that I got the recently revived by quantum mechanics part right though. The audience is my teacher, who's fairly intelligent, and while I'm not entirely sure he's familiar with the concept, I'm thinking about going into further detail with the quantum mechanics and briefly (if that's possible) covering how exactly the debate was revived by quantum mechanics. Thank you, Sir.
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Perhaps he was referring to Dumbledore's opinion?
I was, but it would've made more sense to refer to Harry's, sorry, my bad.
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