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Comment author: Thomas 12 April 2014 07:49:31AM -1 points [-]

Might be interesting, but it is rather trivial for now. Decades ago, some more advanced projects have been undertaken.

MIRI should be on the cutting edge of AI progress, at least it perceives itself as such, but this is far from an edge.

Comment author: Thomas 27 March 2014 04:16:00PM 1 point [-]

Yes. One of the most amoral man I know, talks a lot about morality. I think he finds a good excuse for everything bad (necessary and moral from his POV), he has ever done.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 20 March 2014 11:24:42AM *  4 points [-]

Pure information does not exist. It is an abstract perspective on concrete physical states. Information processing cannot fail to stay in lockstep with the causal activity of its implementation because it is not ontologically a separate thing.

The idea that consciousness supervenes on any functional equivalent to neural activity is problematic because the range of possible concrete implementations is so large, eg Blockheads).

If you take the view that the more problematical aspects of consciousness , such as qualia, supervise directly on physics, and not on the informational layer, you can avoid both Blockheads and p-zombies.

Comment author: Thomas 20 March 2014 03:25:25PM 0 points [-]

If you take the view that the more problematical aspects of consciousness , such as qualia, supervise directly on physics

Without any informational process going on there?

Comment author: Thomas 15 March 2014 08:29:43AM 3 points [-]

I have just completed this.

http://www.workerscheduling.com/

My part is not the web or design, but the very logic and the programming of the engine behind the scene.

With our older, now pre-modern version we have just managed to schedule a bigger international dance week event. Much better than it was possible before by human intellect power. Despite, that (some) humans are surprisingly good at this.

In short:

https://protokol2020.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/woshi-ii/

Comment author: Thomas 14 March 2014 11:42:25AM 0 points [-]

Where are they now? No link is working for several day already. Are they renewing there internet infrastructure or what?

Comment author: Thomas 01 March 2014 04:29:55PM 27 points [-]

He says we could learn a lot from primitive tribes. But they could learn a lot more from us!

  • Jeremy Clarkson
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Comment author: byrnema 18 February 2014 11:08:43PM 1 point [-]

To try steel-manning your perspective, if I'm not misrepresenting it, the idea is that every identity feels the same from the inside, it doesn't matter which one you have or which one is you.

I agree with this.

However (in response to Tenoke below) the situations of identities, and relationships between identities, do matter so it doesn't follow that you can change situations (or kill people) without creating value differences.

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Comment author: Thomas 19 February 2014 07:12:53AM 0 points [-]

To try steel-manning your perspective

Please, continue!

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Comment author: Tenoke 18 February 2014 05:52:13PM -2 points [-]

Imagine, everyone is your incarnation. Co-incarnation. Then, there is no logical problem, suddenly.

So since you can imagine that you have no problem whatsoever with someone killing you?

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Comment author: Thomas 18 February 2014 07:24:11PM -1 points [-]

It doesn't follow at all!

Comment author: lmm 03 February 2014 10:46:34AM -1 points [-]

Only if you have some additional theory that says sets exist and have cardinalities and the set of all natural numbers is a valid set. None of which is assumed by the incompleteness theorem.

In any case, do you have some alternative theory of arithmetic in mind? Being able to form questions that it can't prove an answer to seems like much less of a problem (and a problem that a non omniscient AI needs to solve anyway) than not being able to do arithmetic.

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Comment author: Thomas 03 February 2014 11:08:16AM *  0 points [-]

Only if you have some additional theory that says sets exist and have cardinalities and the set of all natural numbers is a valid set. None of which is assumed by the incompleteness theorem.

Peano system demands a successor for every natural. And that 0 (or 1, depends of a variant), is no natural's successor. So the Peano system is only applicable to infinite sets.

do you have some alternative theory of arithmetic in mind?

Sure. The finite number of possible numbers. As in the computer science already is.

Comment author: lmm 02 February 2014 06:34:09PM -1 points [-]

Gödel's incompleteness theorems apply to any system that contains peano arithmetic. Infinity doesn't come into it.

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Comment author: Thomas 02 February 2014 06:43:51PM 1 point [-]

Peano arithmetic implies infinity. The infinite set of all natural numbers.

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