Comment author: Kindly 26 March 2015 01:44:36PM 3 points [-]

We could go from a day to a minute more slowly; for example, by increasing the number of people by a factor of a googolplex every time the torture time decreases by 1 second.

I absolutely agree that the length of torture increases how bad it is in nonlinear ways, but this doesn't mean we can't find exponential factors that dominate it at every point at least along the "less than 50 years" range.

Comment author: TomStocker 23 April 2015 01:58:32PM 2 points [-]

Obviously. Just important to remember that extremity of suffering is something we frequently fail to think well about.

Comment author: TomStocker 26 March 2015 12:55:40PM 0 points [-]

"The Lord Pilot shouted, fist held high and triumphant: "To live, and occasionally be unhappy!"" (three worlds collide) dust specks are just dust specks - in a way its helpful to sometimes have these things.

But the thing changes if you don't distribute the dust specks 1 per person but 10 per second per person?

Comment author: private_messaging 26 March 2015 08:05:19AM *  4 points [-]

Torturing a person for 1 millisecond is not necessarily even a possibility. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever; in 1 millisecond no interesting feedback loops can even close.

If we accept that torture is some class of computational processes that we wish to avoid, the badness definitely could be eating up your 3^^^3s in one way or the other. We have absolutely zero reason to expect linearity when some (however unknown) properties of a set of computations are involvd. And the computational processes are not infinitely divisible into smaller lengths of time.

Comment author: TomStocker 26 March 2015 11:19:45AM 2 points [-]

Agree, having lived in chronic pain supposedly worse than untrained childbirth, I'd say that even an hour has a really seriously different possibility in terms of capacity for suffering than a day, and a day different from a week. For me it breaks down somewhere, even when multiplying between the 10^15 for 1 day and 10^21 for one minute. You can't really feel THAT much pain in a minute that is comparable to a day, even orders of magnitude? Its just qualitatively different. Interested to hear pushback on this

Comment author: TomStocker 26 March 2015 10:46:29AM 0 points [-]

R(0) should be total historical spend right? Rather than annual spend?

Comment author: owencb 05 March 2015 09:26:06AM 3 points [-]

I like this application. I'd thought about the intra-personal version where I should allocate tasks for myself in time according to mental state and current NTC of the task, but the inter-personal version may be even more natural.

Comment author: TomStocker 06 March 2015 01:24:09PM 2 points [-]

Thanks Owen, really helpful article. Fluttershy - helpful comment, thanks!

Another potential application: developing a set of heuristics based on this to help people manage their chronic health conditions?

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