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Comment author: Vaniver 16 July 2017 07:06:19AM 10 points [-]

The importance of Eliezer and Yvain has not escaped us. My suspicion is that in fact one of the important differences between LW and Facebook is forum software; one of the reasons why Eliezer prefers Facebook is because he can moderate more easily with less pushback.

After this is done, everyone else should wander back in, more or less.

This seems unclear to me. A major factor in drawing people here before was new Eliezer content; even if Eliezer posts here instead of to Facebook, most new Eliezer content is not at the same level of general interest as R:AZ or HPMOR, and the frequency of general interest content is lower. The community is actually doing different work these days than it was five years ago.

Internet communities have lifecycles; you need fresh new blood to replace old blood for lots of reasons. (One of the things that's interesting about LW's history is that many of the people who were promising new blood got hired to do work which, presumably, cut into their posting; overall this seems good because the community has real-world goals, but is also the sort of thing that didn't get worked around in time.)


I agree with you that it makes sense to shift focus, and that there are steps we can take to moderate more effectively (many of which route through forum software!). I also agree that it's better to lock LW down than have it continue in a bad state, but think we should give revitalization a serious try first.

Comment author: gwern 23 June 2017 03:22:21PM 3 points [-]

Computer chess: 'AIs will never master tasks like chess because they lack a soul / the creative spark / understanding of analogies' (laymen, Hofstadter etc); 'AIs don't need any of that to master tasks like chess but computing power and well-tuned search' (most AI researchers); 'but a human-computer combination will always be the best at task X because the human is more flexible and better at mega-cognition!' (Kasparov, Tyler Cowen).

Comment author: Vaniver 01 July 2017 01:15:49AM 0 points [-]

3 has been empirically disproven at this point, I believe?

Comment author: Vaniver 21 June 2017 10:57:10PM 2 points [-]

The first time I read this poll...

Submitting...

Comment author: RainbowSpacedancer 18 June 2017 03:17:09AM 1 point [-]

Help the lesswrong wiki.

Is any effort to improve the wiki now in danger of disappearing once LW 2.0 comes around?

Comment author: Vaniver 20 June 2017 11:14:41PM 2 points [-]

Is any effort to improve the wiki now in danger of disappearing once LW 2.0 comes around?

I don't think we plan to remove the wiki, but I also don't think we plan to improve it. (As I understand it, different code is powering the two, and we can switch over one without interfering with the other.)

If it becomes especially good, then we might send dev resources that way, but I'm currently pessimistic about that.

Comment author: Vaniver 20 June 2017 06:05:42PM *  15 points [-]

LW2.0 Update: Closed beta is underway, with several major bugs found and fixed. We're gradually expanding the invite list over the course of the beta, since in the early days we expect people to mostly be running into the same problems.

Comment author: SaidAchmiz 17 June 2017 02:02:02AM 3 points [-]

making the UI for reading through the Sequences much better

Take a look at this site :)

Comment author: Vaniver 19 June 2017 06:42:39PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, that site is pretty excellent. (The one thing about it that seems sort of 'meh' to me is putting the 'next page' button all the way under lists of links, which show up a bunch at the start; you have to do a lot of scrolling and a lot of clicking to hit the first non-preface Eliezer words. I think it's pretty important, for newcomers especially, that one click puts them in front of the first post.

Comment author: Vaniver 13 June 2017 07:21:47PM 8 points [-]

Athena's shield, spear, and helmet weren't for show, and her major festival placed athletic contests next to musical and artistic ones. It seems dangerous to set up dichotomies and tilt fully to one side, as opposed to collecting and balancing virtues.

Comment author: Deku-shrub 13 June 2017 10:41:56AM 1 point [-]

Info on successor site?

Comment author: Vaniver 13 June 2017 04:07:49PM 2 points [-]

It'll be at lesswrong.com, assuming the community decides it's worth switching. It's a more modern codebase, which will allow us to add in new moderation tools and be more responsive in several ways.

Comment author: Vaniver 13 June 2017 04:07:41PM 6 points [-]

One of the things that we've noticed, doing user interviews of several solid posters from previous eras of Less Wrong, is that most of them didn't write their first comment or post until they had been on the site for months, and had been spending that time lurking and reading the Sequences. (This was my introduction to the site, for example.)

This suggests to me that there is actually something really good that happens when you read the Sequences front to back. (Like Viliam points out, there's an ebook and physical book versions are starting to come out, and also the redesign involves making the UI for reading through the Sequences much better.)

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 11 June 2017 07:58:20PM 2 points [-]

What specific bad things would you expect to happen if the post was left up, with what probabilities? (I'm aware of the standard practice of not discussing ongoing legal cases, but have my doubts about whether allowing the legal system to operate under conditions of secrecy actually makes things better on net.)

Comment author: Vaniver 12 June 2017 06:26:40PM 3 points [-]

What specific bad things would you expect to happen if the post was left up, with what probabilities? (I'm aware of the [standard practice] of not discussing ongoing legal cases, but have my doubts about whether allowing the legal system to operate under conditions of secrecy actually makes things better on net.)

I am following standard practice. I have only weakly considered the relevant norm, and agree that it's not pure good.

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