An interesting piece of easily quantifiable Bayesian evidence could be phones being switched off overnight (dropping off the network) - how often did Knox do that? If she only did that once in many hundred days, on that night in particular, then that could be a very huge amount of evidence. Or she may have done that few times a week, in which case it's irrelevant.
If she only did that once in many hundred days, on that night in particular, then that could be a very huge amount of evidence.
....No. Not even slightly. This line of questioning MIGHT be relevant if you didn't already have the killer identified, with overwhelming physical evidence pointing towards them. You don't need to explain why Knox turned her phone off, because you already have the killer and every single piece of physical evidence at the crime scene accounted for.
I can't attend this one, but I can possibly attend in the future. The Dallas area is a 2 hour drive for me, but I make it up there every couple of months or so. (Incidentally, I'll be there on Saturday night, but not in time for this meetup.)
I ran a mile in 6:40 (I'm 5'10" and 202lb, so this is actually quite a bit more impressive than it sounds).
It's at least worth finding out what the premises are behind your reaction.
I don't think her reaction makes a tremendous amount of sense, at least as she explains it. Nonetheless, she's an intelligent, interesting, and well-informed person, and I don't think the world would be a worse place if there were a rationality blog without a scoring system.
I've spent a fair amount of time in venues with and without scoring, and I don't see any correlation with the quality of the discussion.
I don't think her reaction makes a tremendous amount of sense, at least as she explains it.
I do, and I didn't have any kind of dysfunctional upbringing. I agree with your friend, and if such a place existed, I would enjoy participating there.
It's possible to be intelligent and interested in rationality, but uninterested in being constantly graded and judged.
So, apparently LessWrong feels unfriendly. This is something I've heard several times, so I'll accept it as correct. (I don't get that feeling myself, but I wouldn't expect to notice it anyway.) What are some Internet forums that don't feel unfriendly, and what do they do there that we don't do on LessWrong? Talk about ourselves and our lives - "small talk", in other words?
I do feel like LW is cold, and I'd rather not say "unfriendly", which to me sounds explicitly hostile, but it's non-friendly. Commenting here feels like Coming to Work, not like hanging out with friends. You know, where I need to remember to mind all of my manners. Seeing the orange envelope fills me with panic, as I am sure there is someone there just waiting to chew me out for violating some community norm or just being Wrong.
Truthfully, I think it is the lack of "small talk" that makes it feel unfriendly to me. It has the air of, "we're not interested in you personally, we're here to get things done". I want things to be personal. I want to make friends.
Is there a reason to believe that a LW-related environment will provide better help than existing environments, such as Stack Exchange, or one of the free online universities?
I believe there would be some advantages from the LW culture. For example questions like "which programming language is the best?" would be processed differently in culture which pays attention to mindkilling and values being specific.
On the other hand, LW is just a tiny subset of the world, and there is the strength in numbers. If a website is visited by thousands of programmers, you are more likely to get your answer, fast.
LW articles related to programming:
- Free Tutoring in Math/Programming
- Learn to code
- What is the best programming language?
- Computer Science and Programming: Links and Resources
- Advice On Getting A Software Job
I could give free Skype lessons in programming (specifically Pascal, Java, JavaScript) if anyone is interested (send me a PM). There are probably more people like this, so we could have a list somewhere. Not just a list about programming, but more generally a list of LWers willing to provide professional-level advice on something, categorized by topic.
The main reason I am interested in a LW-related environment (other than it really being my only online "community") is because I know there's been talk here before about people switching fields to become programmers. That's a group of particular interest to me, since I'm one of them. I also know of at least one other person here who is working on becoming a programmer through self-study. There was a post a while back about encouraging more people to become computer programmers, so I'm betting that there are more of us out there.
There's been some talk recently of the need for programmers and how people that are unsatisfied with their current employment can find work in that area while making a decent living. Does there exist some sort of virtual meet-up for people that are working towards becoming programmers? I'd like to form, or be part of, a support group of LW-ers that are beginning programming. There may be something like this around that I've just missed because I mostly lurk and not even that regularly anymore. (Hoping to change that, though.)
•You didn't know the names of the people commenting.
I'm not sure that's the way to put it, but let me ask you this: How much stock do you put in the unsupported assertion of an anonymous person on the internet?
•You have faith that you're more reliable than those people.
Please quote me where I made that assertion.
•You would lose your job if you weren't so great at seeing through bullshit.
Well I need to be decent at a minimum. But basically yeah. I assess cases day in and day out. That's a huge advantage. I know that I'm much better than I was 15 years ago, even though I was just as smart then as I am now.
•You have often failed to see through bullshit.
Sure, getting this kind of feedback is a good way to improve one's judgment. Do you seriously disagree?
Boy was Upton Sinclair ever right.
:shrug: I agree, but employment is sadly not the only motivator for self-deception. Let me ask you this:
Do you agree that the tone of your post is a bit nasty?
I'm not sure that's the way to put it, but let me ask you this: How much stock do you put in the unsupported assertion of an anonymous person on the internet?
How much stock do you put in the supported assertion of an anonymous person on the internet? I think that's a more relevant question here. To what degree does a poster's anonymity detract from his argument?
I'm in all three. I second the LW study group formation.
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