Comment author: Lumifer 28 January 2016 03:29:08PM 1 point [-]

Nothing is wrong with this picture -- it's just Bob trolling Alice :-)

Comment author: WhyAsk 28 January 2016 06:00:37PM 0 points [-]

Alice should avoid at all costs being drawn onto Bob's turf. There are several ways to avoid this.

Comment author: WhyAsk 28 January 2016 02:36:55PM -8 points [-]

" Guardian/Colossus then arranges a worldwide broadcast. The supercomputer proclaims itself "the voice of World Control" and declares its mission is to prevent war, as it was designed to do so. Mankind is given the choice between the "peace of plenty" or one of "unburied dead". It also states that it has detected the attempt to disarm the missiles. It detonates two in their silos "so that you will learn by experience that I do not tolerate interference".

Guardian/Colossus informs Forbin that "freedom is just an illusion" and that "In time you will come to regard me not only with respect and awe, but with love". Forbin angrily replies, "Never!" "

This ^ is where we're headed.

Comment author: WhyAsk 28 January 2016 02:24:15PM -6 points [-]

People need this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom

in order to avoid "paralysis" and go further.

Comment author: ChristianKl 27 January 2016 09:37:00PM 0 points [-]

Without a link to Vos Savant's argument I don't think this comment is helpful.

Comment author: WhyAsk 27 January 2016 10:35:52PM 1 point [-]

She didn't provide her reasoning and I was not able to pull up this particular answer to her readers from the Web.

I guess she wants to remove the middleman costs & admin costs from your "donation." And you get direct feedback on "the fruits of your labor". There might also be psych benefits in that you can see your troubles might not be so bad in the big picture view of things.

For the class of people who think their troubles are better than anyone's (e.g., the "inverse pride" of paranoids) I guess I recommend the monetary contribution route.

Am I putting too much stock in Marilyn's high IQ and that women are biologically superior in any case?

Comment author: WhyAsk 27 January 2016 05:23:27PM -1 points [-]

IIRC, Ms. Vos Savant says don't give money, just go in person to the soup kitchens or whatever and put in your own labor.

Comment author: lifelonglearner 26 January 2016 11:46:29PM 0 points [-]

Hey WhyAsk, I can see the truth value in your statement, but I'm not quite sure the exact connection to the above posts (?).

Comment author: WhyAsk 27 January 2016 12:48:45AM 0 points [-]

Some people hold on more strongly to their original beliefs if someone tries to convince them otherwise. This might have been in the book "On Being Certain."

I think this kind of persuasion is a lost cause but I am still sometimes drawn into trying, against my better judgement.

Even if you don't convince the non-rationalists you may learn some new mindgames, based on what they throw at you, their wacky justifications for their illogical ideas and their non-sequiturs.

On the other hand, I might just be off on a tangent. :(

Comment author: WhyAsk 26 January 2016 06:27:01PM 0 points [-]

If the person you're persuading makes a swatting motion, it means you're not getting through and your persuadee is annoyed.

Comment author: gjm 25 January 2016 05:22:17PM 1 point [-]

I think WhyAsk's model of the situation was "get karma while not doing anything" rather than "get karma independently of what you're doing". (WhyAsk, the reality is much nearer the latter than the former.)

Comment author: WhyAsk 25 January 2016 07:41:17PM 0 points [-]

A lot of what I was sure of, I'm not any longer. . .:D

Comment author: WhyAsk 24 January 2016 05:36:04PM 0 points [-]

Why does my Karma score keep increasing when I don't do anything? It's a disincentive to post. . .?

Comment author: helldalgo 19 January 2016 08:34:55PM 0 points [-]

Cost: Not much that I wasn't already doing, less optimally. Benefit: Social group that I can count on to at least TRY to be epistemically honest. Also, openness towards odd people. Risk: Pariah? I'm already considered odd by a lot of people.

Comment author: WhyAsk 20 January 2016 09:15:17PM 0 points [-]

:D

The textbooks written about my personality type say I'm "eccentric".

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