Comment author: BerryPick6 30 November 2012 04:12:07PM *  2 points [-]

I̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶w̶e̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶n̶s̶w̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶.̶

ETA: Really nice work from satt to prove I was jumping to conclusions here.

Comment author: WingedViper 01 December 2012 01:22:23PM 1 point [-]

Well, you cannot be totally sure. I for one would consider myself a consequentialist, but would still choose dust specks. Correlation doesn't imply causation!

Comment author: BT_Uytya 09 November 2012 09:26:36PM 19 points [-]

I took the survey.

Guys, you are seriously need to start using metric system or at least include the necessary number in the meters. Going to Google twice in order to calculate the relevant numbers was... frustrating.

(By the way, I have never donated to any charity before, but I sworn in a grand manner that it will be in the list of the first five things I will do with my PayPal account when I get one)

Comment author: WingedViper 14 November 2012 08:18:03AM 0 points [-]

Yep, imperial system was quite a frustration and is not really appropriate for such a scientifically minded group.

Comment author: Maelin 04 November 2012 08:10:35AM 39 points [-]

Done. I did all of the extra credit except the Myers-Briggs. The IQ test was the most interesting but three or four questions towards the ends were frustratingly difficult and refused to yield their secrets to me; even now I can feel lingering annoyance at the fact that I eventually gave up on them instead of wrestling with them for longer. Oh well.

Comment author: WingedViper 04 November 2012 06:27:02PM 2 points [-]

Same for me here. Most of them were surprisingly easy and some (about 3 or 4) were just plain bizarre.

Comment author: WingedViper 04 November 2012 06:24:31PM 26 points [-]

Longtime lurker that finally signed up in July. All questions except for the last ones with the tests. (did the IQ test though)

Comment author: WingedViper 04 November 2012 02:37:42PM 0 points [-]

I would be interested in the conclusions you (all) draw from the two-party swindle. Do you think it gets better with multiple party politics? And what would be the best political system? Direct democracy? A council based republic? I agree that the two-party system is greatly flawed, but what is best (multiple parties is better, but clearly not best, right?)

Comment author: pragmatist 06 October 2012 07:35:07AM *  2 points [-]

You have an inequality symbol missing at the end of the quote (between i and j). That made it slightly difficult for me to parse it on my first read-through ("Why does it say 'for all i, j' when the only index in the expression is 'i'?").

Comment author: WingedViper 09 October 2012 01:52:37PM 1 point [-]

I don't know if you know, but just in case you (or someone else) don't: There is no inequality symbol on the computer keyboard, so he used a typical programmer's inequality symbol which is "!=". So yes, it is not easily readable (i! is a bad combination...) but totally correct.

Comment author: fortyeridania 23 September 2012 02:53:22PM 1 point [-]

I genuinely wanted to know why you don't have those discussions

Fair enough. Next time, perhaps you should just say so. Your post seemed to advocate them, not just ask about them. This is, I think, the major reason for the downvoting. (Another big one is the lack of reference to the political threads that actually do appear occasionally.)

Comment author: WingedViper 23 September 2012 04:36:33PM 0 points [-]

Well the intention was indeed twofold. Firstly advocate the possibility for good political discussions (because then, and to a lesser extent now, I thought that it would be good to have them) and genuinely ask why you don't have them.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 September 2012 03:38:34PM 2 points [-]

As I've said elsewhere, it's worth taking the second-order effects into account.
That is, suppose I accept for the sake of comity that LW's exceptional discussion-having abilities would be well-used discussing partisan national politics. (In actual fact I'm unconvinced of this, given what I've seen of it.)
I should still ask myself what kinds of people will join LW if we start regularly discussing such issues who would not otherwise join, and what effect they will have on our exceptional discussion-having abilities.
My prediction, given that we're an open-registration forum on the Internet, is that it will net degrade those abilities.

Comment author: WingedViper 22 September 2012 04:39:15PM 1 point [-]

I realise more and more that I did not phrase my question/query very well. What I meant with a political discussion was that you have a general issue and you try to find either the truth or a consens if possible. So I don't want to discuss Democrats vs Republicans (I am German anyway) but talk about certain issues that you would not want to discuss, because they are "political". (e.g. same sex marriage, how to minimise poverty etc.)

Comment author: fortyeridania 22 September 2012 03:39:40PM *  3 points [-]

You've pointed out two phenomena that are surely related:

  1. People around here have small identities, are interested in finding the truth, and like to discuss on a fair basis.

  2. People around here are not amenable to discussing politics.

I think the relationship is at least partially causal, with 1 causing 2. Speaking for myself anyway, political discussion is frustrating (and yet very enjoyable!), because I find it so hard to even articulate the query, let alone hug it.

If I were to get into a political discussion, I might end up polluting more than clarifying, despite what I would feel were my best efforts. I suspect others here might feel similarly about their own potential for political discussion.

Comment author: WingedViper 22 September 2012 04:07:20PM 0 points [-]

That is the sort of answer I was aiming for when I was writing the post. I genuinely wanted to know why you don't have those discussions and this is an interesting reason.

Comment author: fortyeridania 22 September 2012 03:00:22PM *  0 points [-]

I never said that we are immune

True.

Here's what you did say:

[LW] should be the perfect (or close enough) environment to talk politics because you can have reasonable discussions here.

I think this is overly optimistic. (Thus I do not feel as though you've called me, or anyone else here, stupid. Rather, I think you've overestimated our reasonableness on a political topic.)

Comment author: WingedViper 22 September 2012 03:26:17PM *  0 points [-]

I may have been overly optimistic. I was just stating my confusion about the fact that this chance (people with different political opinions and small identities that are interested in finding the truth and like to discuss on a fair basis) has not been used (much) to discuss politics.

I guess with "perfect" I meant that it is one of the best places you can find, not that it is really perfect.

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