Comment author: Epictetus 21 February 2015 06:02:58PM 2 points [-]

Let us recall that this story takes place in the 90s and that Tom Riddle attended Hogwarts in the 40s. I don't think that his views on sexual politics are entirely consistent with those of the present-day, so he may view "virgin" as meaning "not penetrated by a man".

Comment author: alienist 21 February 2015 08:48:34PM 3 points [-]

Then again Eliezer has been imposing modern sexual attitudes on the Wizarding World, whether out of ignorance or a desire to be politically correct I'm not sure. In any case, I find it one of the most jarring aspects of the fic.

Comment author: Curiouskid 19 February 2015 09:13:00PM *  1 point [-]

Thank you for writing this series Jonah. I'm don't have the time now to think deeply about this topic, so I thought I'd add to the discussion by mentioning a few related interesting anecdotes.

I doubt what made the Polgar sisters great was innate intelligence.

Another interesting anecdote is von Neumann not (initially?) appreciating the importance of higher-level programming languages:

John von Neumann, when he first heard about FORTRAN in 1954, was unimpressed and asked "why would you want more than machine language?" One of von Neumann's students at Princeton recalled that graduate students were being used to hand assemble programs into binary for their early machine. This student took time out to build an assembler, but when von Neumann found out about it he was very angry, saying that it was a waste of a valuable scientific computing instrument to use it to do clerical work. http://worrydream.com/#!/dbx

EDIT: Apparently, von Neumann's attitude toward assembly was common among programmers of that era. http://worrydream.com/quotes/#richard-hamming-the-art-of-doing-science-and-engineering-2

Comment author: alienist 21 February 2015 06:33:25AM 2 points [-]

Given the state of computing at the time, it's possible that computer time really was more valuable then graduate student time.

Comment author: Subbak 21 February 2015 01:07:31AM 0 points [-]

No, I mean she had an intact hymen probably, but it's just the fact that "virgin = intact hymen" is a pretty silly notion to begin with. Especially since it outright says she'd been Baba Yaga's lover for some time already. Having sex pretty much means you're not a virgin any more. Kind of the point.

Comment author: alienist 21 February 2015 02:57:06AM *  8 points [-]

If you're going to be using old definitions "lovers = having sex" is a pretty recent change in meaning.

but it's just the fact that "virgin = intact hymen" is a pretty silly notion to begin with.

Um, the relevant property is that the man can be sure the woman's child will be his, and for that "virgin = intact hymen" is useful.

Comment author: SilentCal 20 February 2015 04:36:06PM 0 points [-]

I'd bank on other spells; "meaningless" is a pretty strong dismissal, and I don't think it could apply to something that let you become a disembodied possessing spirit. The Pioneer horcrux might just be an evil surprise for another planet some day.

Comment author: alienist 21 February 2015 02:06:12AM 0 points [-]

The Pioneer horcrux might just be an evil surprise for another planet some day.

Probably not, space is incredibly empty.

Comment author: TobyBartels 20 February 2015 06:25:28PM 0 points [-]

What's a full system of numerals? Even in Proto-Uralic, you could say ‘four and one’, and a human mind would understand that (whereas rabbits start getting confused, if I remember my appendix correctly). Conversely, in English, we don't have a word for 21; we just say ‘twenty and one’ (abbreviating the ‘and’ to a hyphen, while in French and German the ‘and’ remains).

Comment author: alienist 21 February 2015 01:57:57AM 0 points [-]

What's a full system of numerals? Even in Proto-Uralic, you could say ‘four and one’, and a human mind would understand that

Are you sure? My understanding (from reading some anthropology paper I chanced across is that people in cultures without full number systems do get more confused by large numbers.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 February 2015 08:59:50AM 0 points [-]

So, like Olympics level athletics, where winning takes skills that are increasingly irrelevant to any other use of them?

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Comment author: alienist 21 February 2015 01:36:59AM 0 points [-]

Except most examples aren't this harmless.

Comment author: alienist 20 February 2015 01:37:56AM 2 points [-]

One problem is that things like this tend to lead to affective death spirals. You start praising virtue X (which is a virtue because it leads to positive effect Y), then you start especially praising the extremely virtues practitioners willing to do X even when it doesn't lead to Y.

Comment author: dxu 19 February 2015 12:08:34AM *  1 point [-]

He also said that if someone guessed the entire plot, they'd "know" immediately. I don't think any reader has had a revelation like that yet (apart from the mystery reader who guessed it near the beginning).

Comment author: alienist 19 February 2015 03:31:23AM 1 point [-]

It could be that EY is overestimating how "obvious" (for lack of a better word) everyone else will find something "obvious" to him.

Comment author: cleonid 18 February 2015 04:16:40PM 1 point [-]

Naturally, political systems which require no one to defect are unworkable. But what makes you think that defection is an insolvable problem in this particular system? Just like individual people can act jointly against aggressive criminals, individual states/provinces/communities can act jointly against aggressive regimes.

Comment author: alienist 19 February 2015 03:21:36AM 1 point [-]

My point is that you can't simply rely on other countries having reached a "sufficiently advanced economic or mental stage" to stop defection. You do actually need to rely on force.

Comment author: imuli 15 February 2015 11:32:27PM 0 points [-]

Galileo was eventually demonstrated correct. Were there trials where the church was eventually demonstrated correct?

Comment author: alienist 17 February 2015 06:38:23AM 8 points [-]

Yes, not quite a trial but the condemnations at the University of Paris. In every statement falsifiable among them, the church was eventually correct, e.g., the universe isn't infinitely old, vacuum exists, astrology is bunk.

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