Comment author: KatjaGrace 24 March 2015 03:07:48AM 2 points [-]

What did you find least persuasive in this week's reading?

Comment author: almostvoid 24 March 2015 09:07:33AM -2 points [-]

the over complications, the suppositions in all areas, the assumptions of certain outcomes, the complex logic of spaghetti minded mental convulsions to make a point. It all misses the essence of AI in whatever form. I ran into this at uni doing philslophy-logic and couldn't be philosophical about the proposed propositions. I cheated to pass. It is the same - more erudite - here and the book in general. Creating more forests and hiding the trees. Still it's a learning curve.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 24 March 2015 05:05:39AM 1 point [-]

There is a gender difference in resource constraint satisfaction worth mentioning: males in most primate species are less resource constrained than females, including humans. The main reason why females require fewer resources to be emotionally satisfied is that the upper bound on how many resources are required to attract the males with the best genes, acquire their genes and parenting resources, and have nearly as many children as possible, as well as taking good care of these children and their children is limited. For males however, because there is competitive bargaining with females where many males compete for reproductive access and mate-guarding, and because males can generate more offspring, there are many more ways in which resources can be fungible with reproductive prowess, such as fathering children without much interacting with their mother, but still providing resources for the kid, as well as paying some signaling cost to mate with as many apparently fertile and healthy females as possible. Accordingly, men are hard and softwired to seek fungible resources more frequently and more intensely than women.

Human satisfaction marginally decreases on resource quantity, but they have two clearly distinct clusters on level of marginal decrease.

Comment author: almostvoid 24 March 2015 08:51:44AM 0 points [-]

since men are wired to mate diversely then obviously the recipient must feel the same not different. I mean it takes 2 to tango. I've met women who wanted to ** with me and once asked the proponent that I had a lover and she said: so what? Lesson over.

Comment author: KatjaGrace 10 March 2015 02:09:21AM 2 points [-]

Do you think increased prosperity now is good for the long term?

Comment author: almostvoid 10 March 2015 08:21:41AM -1 points [-]

prosperity going even incrementally onwards as a for-ever process is impossible to maintain. This happened nearly 80 yrs ago with the big Crash [1929] when the perfect socity [USA] couldn't save itself from a mega disaster of major proportions. Yet across the Atlantic neither Italy nor Germany [after 33] suffered. So it is a matter of applying collective intelligence to this reward system. The 1950s achieved a dream run that stalled 20 yrs later and the oil shock was a symptom not a cause. Collective failure was the debilitating source of this slow down. During the 80s Australia had a progressive govt [Labor] which adjusted to the neo-conservatives whilst America and the UK caused nothing but grief. The point is that it is attitude that creates prosperity. Even ideology. We have to think and apply macro models applied in micro ways like universal health care which works in several countries. That too can be considered prosperity because in New Zealand you wont go broke going to a hospital. Owning a car is not prosperity but spin-masters want this criterion included for purely monetary advantage. Car ownership is a burden on one's pocket. Govt subsidized public transport is not. It too works. [used to be a bus driver in Sydney]. Increased prosperity is a false vision. Secure prosperity might be a better ideological attitude. America's unemployment % might be low but when the basic wage is so low you can't exist on it then there won't be much prosperity for the workers who in countries that have collective bargaining entrenched in the social contract such as Germany prosperity is assured. The anglo-american mercantile model of rapacious exploitive capitalism guarantees almost next to nothing whilst the European model though not perfect by even their standards guarantees its participants a better overall quality of life missing in pure monetary gauges that seem to miss the essential: the human equation which is not a mere adjunct to investors who have no conscience that their earnings might come from child labour in some unfortunate re-developing country. Secure prosperity should be the foundation of society.

Comment author: KatjaGrace 23 February 2015 09:19:21PM 5 points [-]

If there is an objective morality, but we don't care about it, is it relevant in any way?

Comment author: almostvoid 24 February 2015 09:05:10AM -1 points [-]

we don't talk about red lights for a train having made a moral decision. i don't think even in AI it applies. if it does than i'd be worried about the humans who offload thinking-decision making to a machine mind. anyway that entity will never comprehend anything per se because it will never be sentient in the broadest sense. I can't see it being an issue. Dropping the atom bomb didn't worry anybody.

Comment author: KatjaGrace 13 January 2015 02:03:36AM 0 points [-]

How might you go about learning whether happiness, consciousness, and other good human qualities are evolutionarily adaptive enough to survive in alien future scenarios?

Comment author: almostvoid 13 January 2015 09:05:51AM 0 points [-]

In a way happiness is ingrained into specific personality types. My neighbour - next flat - is amazingly happy even after she locked herself out and I tried to break in for her. That happiness can only be duplicated with good drugs. Then there is attitude. I was in India [not as a 5 * tourist either] and found they were content [a bit less than happy] with their lives which compared to ours was a big obvious difference. Anyway it's a moot point as the Scandinavians won that round globally the last time because - social democracy works and it is not socialism which a lot of the braindead insist it is. so will all this collapse in a sci fin Asimov type future? No. As cars replaced horse-cabbies and the underground trains created true mass transit happiness per se was-is not affected-effected. Nor to airoplanes instead of ancient clippers to travel across the seas. Personally I can't wait for the future. I even dream about it. At times. People adjust as kids to their surroundings and take it from there. Anthropologists, social scientists, historians, journalists and writers and even real scientists have shown us that we can be happy whether living in the Stone Age [Australian aborigines] or high tech astronauts and everything in between.