Comment author: Vaniver 21 April 2011 06:54:19PM 10 points [-]

Meta-discussion: There was a comment a while ago along the lines of "I wish we had more sharing of personal anecdotes as anecdotes rather than n=1 justifications for theories." This is my attempt at what this would look like, and I'm curious if people found it interesting or valuable, and if there are specific elements they would want to change.

I haven't tried to polish this extensively, mostly because my drafts folder is full of articles somewhat started or awaiting polish, and I decided to publish instead.

Comment author: ameriver 22 April 2011 07:20:32PM 1 point [-]

I found it to be both! Cheers.

Comment author: wedrifid 22 April 2011 05:13:40AM 10 points [-]

(sense 7) One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

That seems to fit pretty well.

It certainly fits 'hacker' (and myself) well. It doesn't fit people who are indifferent to intellectual challenge but just want to live (and so do cryonics) or just want to win (and so min-max the @#%$ out of life).

Comment author: ameriver 22 April 2011 07:02:06PM 1 point [-]

Upvoted for this:

...just want to win (and so min-max the @#%$ out of life).

Comment author: sfb 21 April 2011 09:38:32PM 0 points [-]

but wanted to point out that the hardwired results of evolution often can't be counteracted simply by explaining to the meat-brain that they are no longer adaptive.

Do you have any evidence of this?

Or, since that is a bit tautological, do you have any evidence that the things we want to change (social interaction fears, for instance) are the unchangable "hardwired results of evolution", and not the malleable program running on top (for want of a better description)?

Comment author: ameriver 22 April 2011 01:30:05AM 3 points [-]

I think I may have been using the word "hardwired" a bit flippantly. I didn't mean something that is literally ROM, but something more like a deeply-worn river bed. I think it is possible to overcome many of our (collective and individual) irrational emotional responses, but it's not a trivial task. Steven's comment is right on the mark.

As to evidence, I don't have any that would distinguish between it being a result of evolution, and, say, something that many of our parents condition into us (which, of course, presumes a pre-existing response to negative parental feedback). I do have evidence that these sorts of things are not entirely - or even mostly - under conscious control.

I think the dichotomy you create of "hardwired" vs. "malleable" is a little bit too simplistic: there is a whole spectrum of brain-habits which run the gamut between them. "The Agile Gene" (popular science...) discusses this issue fairly extensively.

Comment author: kpreid 21 April 2011 06:56:02PM 1 point [-]

I am curious what the context for the link was.

Comment author: ameriver 21 April 2011 07:06:21PM 3 points [-]

I was discussing an error I had made in a calculus problem becaues I tried to integrate a function of x with respect to z. I pointed out I made the error largely because my calculus skills are rusty, and I was just remembering a password ("velocity is the integral of acceleration!") and pushing on a magic button (INTEGRATE!) without remembering exactly what I was doing (calculating the area under the curve of a function of x, which doesn't make when you try to do it by adding up tiny pieces of z). At the end of my post-mortem, I linked the article and said it talked about some of the issues I was trying to articulate.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 April 2011 04:22:15PM 1 point [-]

That's interesting. Is that a consequence of your holistic knowledge of martial arts or a single technique that could be taught on its own? Can the technique be taught e.g. to elderly people who are not in good shape?

Comment author: ameriver 21 April 2011 05:11:56PM 0 points [-]

The knowledge is basically muscle memory: we didn't spend a lot of time learning the formal breakfall techniques, so much as every class involved falling or being knocked over from a variety of awkward positions, on the order of 100 times per class. So although it might be possible to teach the elderly the techniques (Cyan sounds like ey knows more about this than I do), the way I learned them probably wouldn't be a good way to do it.

I have found the experience transferrable, though, to situations like skiing, slipping on icy ground, crashing my bike, etc.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 April 2011 02:33:14PM *  2 points [-]

I think martial arts are unnecessary for dealing with the most common types of danger.

Comment author: ameriver 21 April 2011 04:18:13PM 3 points [-]

The most valuable lesson I ever learned from martial arts was how to fall down without hurting myself, and I'd say this is a skill that would help most people significantly reduce the number and severity of physical injuries they experience over their lifetime.

Comment author: Alicorn 21 April 2011 01:14:50PM 1 point [-]

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Comment author: ameriver 21 April 2011 02:18:34PM 1 point [-]

Is this something I can easily obtain?

Comment author: ameriver 21 April 2011 08:43:37AM 7 points [-]

A few weeks ago, I put a link to "Guessing the Teacher's Password" into one of my physics class lab reports. My professor followed the link, read several articles, and has shared at least that first one with several other science faculty at the community college I attend.

Doesn't quite count as non-geeky, but I am nonetheless well pleased.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 April 2011 07:36:12PM 0 points [-]

We should absolutely be quibbling about "successful." Someone comes to me with advice for achieving my goals: "I know just the ticket, all you have to do is swallow this giant pack of lies." Well, couldn't they be right?

I think it's a rare individual who would actually be in less physical danger if they were better at martial arts. The scope of rationality is similarly limited -- it's not useful for every one, or for every goal.

Comment author: ameriver 21 April 2011 08:21:25AM 1 point [-]

I think it's a rare individual who would actually be in less physical danger if they were better at martial arts.

Do you think that because you believe most people don't experience physical danger? Or because you think that martial arts is ineffective in dealing with the most common types of danger? Or some other reason?

Comment author: Alicorn 21 April 2011 04:20:15AM 1 point [-]

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Comment author: ameriver 21 April 2011 07:07:27AM 0 points [-]

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