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arisen7y20

I'm wrong, it's actually simple stoicism, not real alleviation of pain.

arisen7y00

I'm using opera mini (beta some times) on android and I pasted a whole google search link , maybe their beta servers are in Russia? Or something about opera mini data optimization? I have nothing to hide, it's the ethics of science

arisen7y00

Your premise is wrong. "So, let's get started with the basic idea. In this universe, things seem to run on probabilistic laws known as quantum mechanics. These allow for very strange consequences, which were previously thought eradicated." It's based on the Copenhagen interpretation of QM! (QED for example does not allow the delayed choice quantum eraser paradox existing in QM).

The problem with the Copenhagen interpretation is: "... that the probability density function from Schroedinger's time-independent equation when averaged over time is just the proportion of the time spent in the allowable states given the dynamics of the system. It is thus the probability of finding the system in any of its allowable states at a randomly chosen time. There are no metaphysical perplexities involved with this probability density function. The time-averaged effect of a particle executing a periodic path is the same as if its generic charge (gravitational mass or electric charge) is spread over its path in proportion to its time spent probability density distribution; i.e., to the proportion of the time it spends at various locations on its path" http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/bellth.htm

arisen7y30

An interesting fact is that in cultures like India, where reincarnation is just a popular belief, the subjective measure of suffering is lower. A social (shared) stoicism in the face of death makes it easier to bare.

In the West another form of suffering yet emerged that I would call the Sword of Damocles.

Also worth mentioning is psychological suffering, particularly Persecutory delusion & Persecution complex.

arisen7y00

WOW I think it's just amazing! "So in theory we could hand it off to human philosophers or some other human-based procedure, thus dealing with "complexity of value" without much risk." *That could simply be handled by producing more complexity than entropy in replication pdf

"Then we could launch a powerful AI aimed at rebuilding reality to match it (more concretely, making the world's conscious experiences match a specific coarse-grained VR utopia, without any extra hidden suffering). That's still a very hard task, because it requires solving decision theory and the problem of consciousness, but it seems more manageable than solving friendliness completely." *In a coarse-grained virtual reality where everything is built from polygons and textures consciousness could be quantized trough Stone's representation theorem or Heyting algebra as symbols that represent themselves by way of symmetry.

"The resulting world would be suboptimal in many ways, e.g. it wouldn't have much room for science or self-modification." *It will have room for science as the predictor of thermodynamic cost. Really the trick by which coarse-grained VR utopia might just work is because of a process called "refrigeration by randomizing a bit" and "adiabatic demagnetization".

In a nutshell,

  1. We can measure and predict the thermodynamic costs as a result of producing more complexity (a series of undeveloped modules that may or may not lead to functional specialization).
  2. If the "coarseness" of the VR is obtained by randomizing a bit and using that bit as a refrigeration, well then we can blow the second law of thermodynamics.
  3. Effectiveness of functional specialization in decreasing thermodynamic cost would be the golden rule that will avoid decision making or consciousness.
arisen7y20

The only way for a stochastic process to satisfy the Markov property if it's memoryless. Most phenomena are not memoryless, which means that observers will obtain information about them over time.

arisen7y00

I believe it's a beautiful idea that doesn't obey the second law of thermodynamics. I like it because it's a different paradigm on the link between information and reality, based on boolean projections and topology. However the thermodynamic cost of erasing de-entangles bits at quantum scale would be enormous. There is not enough noise into the system to cool it down. In that respect, it might have value as a pre Big-Bang hypothesis but from what I can tell it will release energy at plank scale instantly.

"There is no contradiction between quantum physics and relativity if the very concept of distance is unreliable", that is correct, but we exists at the "sweet spot" right between them. You could say distance can not be unreliable because Maxwell's equations are differential.

arisen7y10

When you value science for its prediction ability then automatically rationality becomes a burden. If you have a machine that can predict the lottery I don't really want to know how it works. It's merely enough you know how it works and I trust you. "Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them." Wisdom is just the window dressing of science working by abductive reasoning to inspire optimism in the users. Marketing of honest goods! :)

To be precise Wisdom is a regulator of Landauer thermodynamic costs of biological computation. In non equilibrium systems such as the human body, wisdom would raise the temperature of the body to favour winning a computational battle with the virus producing more complexity than entropy in replication.

arisen7y-10

Expecting short Inferential Distances wouldn't that be a case of rational thought producing beliefs which are themselves evidence? :P Manifested in over-explaining to the point of cognitive-dissonance? How about applying Occam's Razor and going the shorter distance: improve the clarity of the source by means of symbolism though a reflective correction (as if to compensate for the distortion in the other lens). To me it means to steel-man the opponent's argument to the point where it becomes not-falisifible. See, the fact that science works by falsification and pseudoscience by verification puts them in different paradigms that will only be reconciled by verification alone. Meaning also, science will have value because it can predict, so who cares about its inner workings of reason! This to me makes sense, because right now we seem to rank our intelligence superior to that of a virus, which is a problem of underestimating your enemy :). We are Neurotribes, autistic kids for ex. think in pictures; a different type intelligence may be emerging, may be without beliefs :)

"It is a profoundly erroneous truism, repeated by all copy-books and by eminent people when they are making speeches, that we should cultivate the habit of thinking of what we are doing. The precise opposite is the case. Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them. Operations of thought are like cavalry charges in a battle — they are strictly limited in number, they require fresh horses, and must only be made at decisive moments." Alfred North Whitehead

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