Is "Guide Through the American Class System" supposed to be on the MIRI research guide?
Or where can I find this mailing list to which Yvain refers?
Is "Guide Through the American Class System" supposed to be on the MIRI research guide?
Or where can I find this mailing list to which Yvain refers?
The mailing list is (presumably) just where he heard about the book. (In case you don't know this, SIAI is MIRI's old name.)
The chapter of the book at the defunct link is still available at the Internet Archive.
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Fixed Jaynes link (no trailing period).
Interesting, why?
For me, the pictures in the op stop being a man at around panel 6, going back they stop being a woman at around 4. I can flip your second example by unfocusing and refocusing my eyes, but in your first example I can't for the life of me see anything other than a young woman looking away from the camera (I'm amusing there is an old woman in there somewhere based on the image name).
Could you give a hint as to how to flip it? I'm assuming the ear turns into an eye or something, but I've been trying for about half an hour now and it is annoying the crap out of me.
The old woman is looking down.
A line drawing version might be easier.
The so-called "EPR Paradox" that is not a paradox at all. (well it is if you assume a deterministic physics with hidden variables, which is just wrong; it should be called the EPR Proof that Einstein was Wrong Sometimes).
Yes, of course.
Eliezer said a lot of things.
I'm just saying that it is intentional that you can't vote on the comments on someone's profile page. (I found the relevant entry in the issue tracker.)
I was about to say that if sometimes the buttons do appear then it's a bug, but it turns out that this behavior has been changed:
Users with sufficient karma can downvote on the userpages of people with less than a certain percentage upvotes.
The vote buttons work, even to downvote.
OK. (Although -- have you refreshed the page or gone to the permalink to see if the vote is still there? I kind of remember that the vote button changed color but didn't actually record the vote.)
Anyway, I looked it up and in 2011 Eliezer said, "Voting buttons have now been removed from user profile pages."
A while back (a couple years?) votes (or at least downvotes) were disabled on per-user "overview", "comments", and "submitted" pages, to make it harder to karmassassinate people. Sometimes there's a bug where you still see the vote buttons but if I remember correctly they don't work.
(You can still vote on a comment after following its permalink.)
Even in the US, urban upper-middle-class people tend to get the two cultures confused since they both equally reject things like suits and liberal arts degrees and clever hipster music.
(European here. Also an amateur rock musician, FWIW.)
It sounds like American urban upper-middle-class culture (you mean the one which Mencius Moldbug calls Optimates, Yvain calls Blue Tribe, Christian Lander calls SWPL, etc., right?) is even more foreign to me than I thought: I'm mildly surprised they find rockers outgroupish enough to lump them with country music folks. I'm also surprised by the association of rock/metal with "rural" -- the first place in the US that springs to my mind when I hear about rock would be somewhere like Los Angeles.
No, it's not that all rockers are poor, rural, and white, it's that one of the poor, rural, white subcultures likes rock and metal more than country music.
Eugine's beliefs are "politically incorrect", but that's not completely unusual at LW. The main reason why we don't see them here often is that we don't debate politics often. And ironically, Eugine's downvoting crusades have contributed significantly to reducing the political debates on LW. There were times when we used to have a political debate in a separate thread or in an Open Thread once in a while. And at some moment, such debates started predictably ending with someone saying "I have disagreed with Eugine yesterday, and today I see I have lost hundreds of karma points and most of my old comments are at -1; fuck this". This makes the debate unpleasant even for the people who on object level happen to agree with Eugine on the specific topic. Most of us see the difference between "I won the debate by providing convincing arguments" and "I won the debate by strategically downvoting or otherwise harrassing my opponents" (or "I won the debate because my opponents were harrassed by a third party").
Also, Eugine's comments seem like optimized to offend. Such comments are "convincing for the already believing, and irritating for the unbelieving". They don't change anyone's opinion, and are usually used by a majority, to silence a minority. Ironically, majority is exactly what Eugine doesn't have here. So this leaves me with two models:
Eugine is too mindkilled to understand all this nuance, despite having spent years here. He still doesn't get what LW is about. In such case, his mental abilities are insufficient for LessWrong.
Eugine may understand the nuance, he just doesn't give a fuck about rationality or LW culture. For him, victory of his tribe is the ultimate goal. That also means he doesn't belong here, just for different reasons.
Regardless of whether he understands or doesn't understand what he is doing wrong, he has shown no capacity to learn or to improve his behavior. Like, come on, it's not like moderators are paranoidly observing IP addresses of every user to make sure the lifelong bans stay enforced. All he would have to do is to create a new account and change his behavior so that no one would suspect it's the same person. He is either incapable or unwilling to do that. Well, fuck him; we are not here to provide him group therapy.
I mean, feel free to speculate about his true reasons. I am just saying they don't change anything about the ban.
This comment is an excellent summary of Eugine_Nier's history at LW and what's wrong with his behavior.