Comment author: shminux 16 April 2014 04:51:27PM 8 points [-]

From personal observations

"Do your job and do it well"

most emphatically does not top the list. Certainly you have to do an adequate job, but your success in a corporate environment depends on your interpersonal skills more than on anything else. You depend on other people to get noticed and promoted, so you need to be good at playing the game. If you haven't taken a Dale Carnegie course or similar, do so. Toastmasters are useful, too. In general, learning to project a bit more status and competence than you think you merit likely means that people would go along with it.

Just to give an example, I have seen a few competent but unexceptional engineers become CEOs and CTOs over a few short years in a growing company, while other, better engineers never advanced beyond a team lead, if that.

If you are an above average engineer/programmer etc. but not a natural at playing politics, consider exploring your own projects. If you haven't read Patrick McKenzie's blog about it, do so. On the other hand, if striking out on your own is not your dream, and you already have enough drive, social skills and charisma to get noticed, you are not likely to benefit from whatever people on this site can tell you.

Comment author: benkuhn 17 April 2014 01:34:33AM 8 points [-]

I'd beware conflating "interpersonal skills" with "playing politics." For CEO at least (and probably CTO as well), there are other important factors in job performance than raw engineering talent. The subtext of your comment is that the companies you mention were somehow duped into promoting these bad engineers to executive roles, but they might have just decided that their CEO/CTO needed to be good at managing or recruiting or negotiating, and the star engineer team lead didn't have those skills.

Second, I think that the "playing politics" part is true at some organizations but not at others. Perhaps this is an instance of All Debates are Bravery Debates.

My model is something like: having passable interpersonal/communication skills is pretty much a no-brainer, but beyond that there are firms where it just doesn't make that much of a difference, because they're sufficiently good at figuring out who actually deserves credit for what that they can select harder for engineering ability than for politics. However, there are other organizations where this is definitely not the case.

Comment author: VipulNaik 13 April 2014 08:45:12PM *  2 points [-]

On the claim:

spending the bulk of the day in video/voice conversations is a lot more fatiguing than spending it using text-based communication.

It seems that I was wrong.

The following sources contradict me: http://calorielab.com/burned/?mo=se&gr=09&ti=miscellaneous+activities&q=&wt=150&un=lb&kg=68 and http://www.my-calorie-counter.com/Calories_Burned/

Some random Internet comments corroborate me. For instance, scott preston writes at http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/03/stephan-spencer-seo-future-search.html: "In fact speaking takes a lot more energy to than typing does."

I'll look this up more and update if I find more reliable information.

Comment author: benkuhn 13 April 2014 09:20:27PM 4 points [-]

I would expect the relevant factor to be mental, not physical, exertion. Unfortunately that's a lot harder to measure.

Comment author: VipulNaik 13 April 2014 06:53:49PM *  0 points [-]

For short conversations, video/voice may be more effective because it's slightly faster.

However, spending the bulk of the day in video/voice conversations is a lot more fatiguing than spending it using text-based communication [EDIT: I'm quite likely mistaken about this, see the followup comments].

I think the people who're not used to text-based communication generally just end up spending less time communicating, and/or work in group environments in physical proximity to others where one can talk occasionally.

Comment author: benkuhn 13 April 2014 08:04:02PM *  1 point [-]

Do you have actual data on this? Otherwise I'm very tempted to call typical mind.

Comment author: benkuhn 11 April 2014 09:36:17PM *  5 points [-]

One story for exponential growth that I don't see you address (though I didn't read the whole post, so forgive me if I'm wrong) is the possibility of multiplicative costs. For example, perhaps genetic sequencing would be a good case study? There seem to be a lot of multiplicative factors there: amount of coverage, time to get one round of coverage, amount of DNA you need to get one round of coverage, ease of extracting/preparing DNA, error probability... With enough such multiplicative factors, you'll get exponential growth in megabases per dollar by applying the same amount of improvement to each factor sequentially (whereas if the factors were additive you'd get linear improvement).

Comment author: benkuhn 01 April 2014 03:24:22AM 5 points [-]

If anyone's admitted/visiting Harvard, let me know! I go there and would be happy to meet up and/or answer your questions. There are some other students on here as well.

College discussion thread

5 benkuhn 01 April 2014 03:21AM

It's that time of year when high school seniors are thinking about colleges, and by extension, everyone who knows any high school seniors is thinking about colleges as well. So let's let Less Wrong join in!

Do you have:

  • questions about choosing, preparing for, or attending colleges?
  • sage advice about choosing, preparing for, or attending colleges?
  • announcements of which college you'll be attending or visiting and when (for instance, so that you can meet local LWers)?
  • other things not worth their own post such that 'people who clicked on the "College discussion thread"' is an appropriate audience?
Please post them below!
Comment author: JonahSinick 29 March 2014 04:03:30AM *  0 points [-]

Thanks, it actually hadn't occurred to me that it might be read that way.

Edit: Changed "impressive" in title to "outstanding."

Comment author: benkuhn 29 March 2014 06:57:27PM 1 point [-]

"outstanding" still has some of the same connotations to me, although less so. But I may be in the minority here.

Comment author: benkuhn 29 March 2014 03:43:36AM *  6 points [-]

This is a side-note, but I find it off-putting when people use "impressive" when they want something that's like "awesome" but more formal-sounding. (This usage seems to be fairly common in the EA community, for some reason.) I'm sure that you understand the difference between the two, and that you actually terminally care about people doing awesome things, not manufacturing resume items, but to a casual reader it might sound like the latter.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 20 March 2014 07:37:27AM *  1 point [-]

How did it compare to CFAR? I thought CFAR was a bit overrated myself. (Maybe because I'm already in the Bay Area and have lots of local EA/LWer friends I tend to get less out of these events?)

Comment author: benkuhn 20 March 2014 05:51:27PM 3 points [-]

I don't think they're comparable? I enjoyed the EA summit for different reasons than I enjoyed CFAR. (I had already been to a CFAR workshop by the time of the summit, and was still very happy I went.)

Comment author: benkuhn 20 March 2014 12:57:11AM *  9 points [-]

Definitely attend this if you can! I went last year and it was an amazing experience. Highly, highly recommended. (Yes, even more highly than donating the price of tickets to your favorite effective charity.)

EDIT: also, feel free to ask me stuff about the participant experience, either here or by private message.

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