Article on IQ: The Inappropriately Excluded

4 buybuydandavis 19 September 2016 01:36AM

I saw an article on high IQ people being excluded from elite professions. Because the site seemed to have a particular agenda related to the article, I wanted to check here for other independent supporting evidence for the claim.

Their fundamental claim seems to be that P(elite profession|IQ) peaks at 133 and decreases thereafter, and goes do to 3% of peak at 150. If true, I'd find that pretty shocking.

They indicate this diminishing probability of "success" at the high tail of the IQ distribution as a known effect. Anyone got other studies on this? 

The Inappropriately Excluded

By dividing the distribution function of the elite professions' IQ by that of the general population, we can calculate the relative probability that a person of any given IQ will enter and remain in an intellectually elite profession.  We find that the probability increases to about 133 and then begins to fall.  By 140 it has fallen by about 1/3 and by 150 it has fallen by about 97%.  In other words, for some reason, the 140s are really tough on one's prospects for joining an intellectually elite profession.  It seems that people with IQs over 140 are being systematically, and likely inappropriately, excluded. 

LIST: I can't vote Karma on some people, some contexts.

2 buybuydandavis 08 May 2015 03:06AM

What's up with that?

In a discussion thread, I can karma vote on anyone. 

But if I select a person to see all their posts, for some people, karma is disabled while looking at them, and for others, it's not disabled. Same thing if I look at their posts under the list of all my posts.

 

 

 

Robin Hanson talking about Bias on Stossel tonight

3 buybuydandavis 12 December 2014 05:15AM

 

Stossel has a page with full episodes. I don't know when it will show there. Hanson was the first guest, and was done by the 12 minute mark.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/playlist/stossel-full-episodes/

 

 

Thinking Fast and Slow for Kindle $3 at Amazon

7 buybuydandavis 24 December 2013 07:53PM

EY "Politics is the Mind Killer" sighting at Washington Examiner and Reason.com

19 buybuydandavis 27 September 2012 07:48PM

Original at Washington Examiner

http://washingtonexaminer.com/down-with-politics/article/2508882#.UGSscI0iYZm

...

Politics makes us worse because "politics is the mindkiller," as intelligence theorist Eliezer Yudkowsky puts it. "Evolutionary psychology produces strange echoes in time," he writes, "as adaptations continue to execute long after they cease to maximize fitness." We gorge ourselves sick on sugar and fat, and we indulge our tribal hard-wiring by picking a political "team" and denouncing the "enemy."

But our atavistic Red/Blue tribalism plays to the interests of "individual politicians in getting you to identify with them instead of judging them," Yudkowsky writes.

...

Examiner Columnist Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and the author of "The Cult of the Presidency."

Repost at Reason.com

http://reason.com/archive/2012/09/25/why-politics-are-bad-for-us

E.T. Jaynes and Hugh Everett - includes a previously unpublished review by Jaynes of a published short version of Everett's dissertation

11 buybuydandavis 02 July 2012 04:49AM

 

E.T. Jaynes had a brief exchange of correspondence with Hugh Everett in 1957. The exchange was initiated by Everett, who commented on recently published works by Jaynes. Jaynes responded to Everett's comments, and finally sent Everett a letter reviewing a short version of Everett's thesis published that year. 

Jaynes reaction was extremely positive at first: "It seems fair to say that your theory is the logical completion of quantum theory, in exactly the same sense that relativity was the logical completion of classical theory." High praise. But Jaynes swiftly follows up the praise with fundamental objections: "This is just the fundamental cause of Einstein's most serious objections to quantum theory, and it seems to me that the things that worried Einstein still cause trouble in your theory, but in an entirely new way." His letter goes on to detail his concerns, and insist, wtih Bohm,  that "Einstein's objections to quantum theory have never been satisfactorily answered.

The Collected Works of Everett has some narrative about their interaction:

http://books.google.com/books?id=dowpli7i6TgC&lpg=PA261&dq=jaynes%20everett&pg=PA261#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

Hugh Everett marginal notes on page from E. T. Jaynes' "Information Theory and Statistical Mechanics"

http://ucispace.lib.uci.edu/handle/10575/1140

 

Hugh Everett handwritten draft letter to E.T. Jaynes, 15-May-1957

http://ucispace.lib.uci.edu/handle/10575/1186

 

Hugh Everett letter to E. T. Jaynes, 11-June-1957

http://ucispace.lib.uci.edu/handle/10575/1124

 

E.T. Jaynes letter to Hugh Everett, 15-October-1957 - Never before published

https://sites.google.com/site/etjaynesstudy/jaynes-documents/Jaynes-Everett_19571015.pdf?

Directory at Google site with all the links and docs above. Also links to Washington University at St. Louis copyright form for this doc, Everett's thesis, long and short forms, and Jaynes' paper (the papers they were discussing in their correspondence). I hope to be adding the final letter in this exchange, Jaynes to Hewitt 17-June-1957, within a couple of weeks. , and maybe some documents from the Yahoo Group ETJaynesStudy as well.

https://sites.google.com/site/etjaynesstudy/jaynes-documents

 

For perspective on Jaynes more recent thoughts on quantum theory:

Jaynes paper on EPR and Bell's Theorem: http://bayes.wustl.edu/etj/articles/cmystery.pdf

Jaynes speculations on quantum theory: http://bayes.wustl.edu/etj/articles/scattering.by.free.pdf

Draft of Edwin Jaynes' "Probability Theory: The Logic of Science" online, with lost chapter 30

8 buybuydandavis 23 June 2012 05:48AM

http://thiqaruni.org/mathpdf9/(86).pdf

The book didn't include Chapter 30 - "MAXIMUM ENTROPY: MATRIX FORMULATION"

Opening in adobe seems to work out better for me.

 

 

 

Free Kindle Textbook: The Cerebellum: Brain for an Implicit Self (FT Press Science)

4 buybuydandavis 07 June 2012 02:43AM

**** DEAL OVER: As of 20120611.

Another free kindle I thought some might have interest in. I haven't read it, but the first review was glowing and looked relevant.

First Amazon Review:

> Five Star Final; Excellent; A "must read" for any "student" of brain-behavior relationships

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DKQQG4/

UPDATE: Still free at the US amazon at 2pm eastern time. Reports that it is not free at the UK site, which I verified. Since I can log in to the UK site from the US and see the price, I assume people in the UK could sign into the US site and buy it. If anyone gives that a try, let me know and I'll further update the top level.

UPDATE:  Free at amazon.fr. Can buy at the US site from the Netherlands. Can't buy from FR or US sites from UK.

 

"How We Decide", by Jonah Lehrer, kindle version on sale for 99 cents at amazon

3 buybuydandavis 07 March 2012 06:43AM

http://www.amazon.com/How-We-Decide-ebook/dp/B003WMAAMG/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1331098417&sr=1-1

I don't know how proper this is, but I'm quite cheap and like a bargain, and I've seen Lehrer referred to a number of times here. I hadn't read Kahneman before, but bought the kindle version and read him on my phone whenever I had some wait time somewhere.

It's better than a mokeskin pouch! I can have the top *thousand* books I'm reading on me at all times, and just pull one out anywhere! I never have to waste another minute of my life!

I don't like spam anymore than anyone else, but I'm going to be getting it cheap, and I just want everyone else who wants it to get it cheap too. It's okay to spam people about cheap books, right? That's a family tradition.

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