Comment author: Owen_Richardson 05 September 2011 03:58:16AM *  8 points [-]

Misha, you are spectacularly awesome. =D

I mean, it's aggravating to see things you wrote and go, "But I SAID that! Was everyone just skimming over that part or what?", but as the aphorism runs in the DI world, "If the learner hasn't learned, the teacher hasn't taught", eh? :P

[And until one sees that aphorism as perfectly consistent with "logically faultless communication", one must know that one still hasn't understood the meaning of the technical term.]

I knew I'd make terribly stupid mistakes in miscommunicating this stuff when I started, so I figured it was time to let go of my fear of not having it be perfect in the first place and just start trying.

I should also make sure, when you say it was 1982, do you mean original publication, or that of the copy you got? The second (and most recent) edition is 1991.

Dunno offhand what's different. Never saw the older one myself.

Comment author: calcsam 05 September 2011 05:57:08AM 6 points [-]

You're right, writing concisely is definitely a learned skill.

I became pretty good at it, but that's only through practice and helpful editors at my college student newspaper and a couple of newspaper internships. If you want to improve your professional writing skills, find a place where you can practice and people will point out your flaws so you can improve. LessWrong can definitely serve that function.

Glad you have a thick skin, glad you could start a useful conversation, and hope to see more of you in the future!

Comment author: calcsam 27 August 2011 04:01:26PM 3 points [-]

:The German text of the taped police examination, each page corrected and approved by EIchmann, constitutes a veritable gold mine for a psychologist - provided he is wise enough to understand that the horrible can be not only ludicrous but outright funny. Some of the comedy cannot be conveyed in English, because it lies in Eichmann's heroic fight with the Germna language, which invariably defeats him. It is funny when he speaks, passim, of "winged words" (geflugelte Worte, a Gemran colloquialism of famous quotes from the classics) when we means stock phrases, Redensarten, or slogans, Schlagworte....

Dimly aware of a defect that much have plagued him even in school, he apologized, saying "Officialese [Amtssprache] is my own language. But the point here is that officialese became his language because he was genuinely incapable of uttering a single sentence that was not a cliche...

Eichmann's mind was filled to the brim with such statements.....his memory proved to be quite unreliable about what had actually happen; the [reason], of course, was that Eichmann remembered the turning points in his own career rather well, but they did not necessarily correspond to the turning points in the Jewish extermination or, as a matter of fact, with a lot of the turning points in the history....

But the point of the matter is that he had not forgotten a single one of his sentences that at one time or another had served to give him 'elation'. Hence, whenever, during the cross-examination, the judged tried to appeal to his conscience, they were met with 'elation,' and they were outrage and disconcerted when they learned that at his disposal he had a different elating cliche for each period of his life and each of his activities..." (Eichmann in Jerusalem, Hannah Arendt, Chapter III)

In response to Polyhacking
Comment author: calcsam 27 August 2011 03:16:21PM 6 points [-]

Interesting. Very vivid insight into how the hacking was accomplished. A question I have from the outside looking in is about motivation, what makes people want to be poly in the first place?

Alicorn, you said that your primary motivation was MBlume. (Or generalized, 'a specific person.') MBlume, what was your primary motivation?

Other poly people please feel free to reply also.

Comment author: jsalvatier 25 August 2011 08:29:25PM 3 points [-]

Are you looking for Bayesian statistics in general or these specifics examples? My Bayesian statistics textbook recommendation is here.

Comment author: calcsam 26 August 2011 09:55:52PM 0 points [-]

That is helpful, thanks!

Not necessarily these specific examples, but some complex example.

I'm not sure if I would buy a textbook, but I would definitely read a link. Others likely fall into this category.

Comment author: calcsam 25 August 2011 06:29:42PM 8 points [-]

Alan Turing used it to decode the German Enigma cipher and arguably save the Allies from losing the Second World War; the U.S. Navy used it to search for a missing H-bomb and to locate Soviet subs; RAND Corporation used it to assess the likelihood of a nuclear accident; and Harvard and Chicago researchers used it to verify the authorship of the Federalist Papers.

I haven't seen any explanation of how these kinds of things were done, including calculations. Eliezer's Intuitive Explanation is good, of course, but the examples are very basic. Anything that is notable, even if it's just a published paper, would (I presume) involve data sets and more complex calculations. Does anyone have any good links to complex examples where they actually go through the math and make it easy to follow?

(I would like to understand this better; plus my father, a molecular biologist, asked me to explain Bayes' Theorem and how to use it to him.)

Comment author: Metus 19 August 2011 04:22:05PM *  2 points [-]

Thank you. Is the style ok?

Comment author: calcsam 19 August 2011 04:57:32PM 3 points [-]

I would be unable to tell that you weren't a native speaker upon cursory reading, if you didn't mention it.

Comment author: MatthewBaker 16 August 2011 01:43:10AM 0 points [-]

What specific concerns make you disagree with its feasibility?

Comment author: calcsam 16 August 2011 05:03:53AM 3 points [-]

We have neither the numbers, the organizational skill, nor the social skills to be good at this. There is a joke that organizing libertarians is like herding cats and the same principle seems to be partly true here for the same reason: Lw draws a lot of smart contrarian people. Unless there is a technological way to conquer the world, say the Singularity, but that demands an entirely different organizational strategy, namely channeling all efforts into FAI.

Comment author: calcsam 16 August 2011 12:59:12AM *  9 points [-]

Not feasible. Let's aim for a more modest goal, say, better PR and functional communities.

Moreover, not this community's comparative advantage. Why do we think we'd be any better than anyone else at running the world? And why wouldn't we be subject to free-riders, power-seekers, and rationalists-of-fortune if we started winning?

Comment author: CuSithBell 10 August 2011 01:11:59AM 1 point [-]

I discuss this in greater depth in this reply. I hope this clarifies my position! I don't believe that LW-majority-position is misogynistic, self-serving nihilism (probably something more along the lines of happy-fun-times-nihilism). I do think that some of these topics can be dangerous-like-politics, and that this danger manifests as I describe in the other post.

Comment author: calcsam 10 August 2011 06:57:28AM *  0 points [-]

This thread illustrates my point.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 August 2011 03:21:08PM 3 points [-]

You are certainly correct as far as LDS is concerned, but I was thinking more along the lines of reformed religious communities whose social expectations are little more than "attend church every once and a while" and "send your kids to religious school."

In response to comment by [deleted] on Raise the Age Demographic
Comment author: calcsam 07 August 2011 04:51:04PM 0 points [-]

Oh, that makes sense. I guess we were just using the same word to refer to different things ^.^

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