Comment author: ArisKatsaris 14 December 2010 01:23:48PM 2 points [-]

Well, if the shooter has absolutely no loss of utility done to him by the act of shooting, what'd be the point of warning the other guy in the first place? He'd just let him approach and then shoot him.

Comment author: drhaft 15 December 2010 12:37:58PM 0 points [-]

I see your point. Even if killing him would be a neutral result, and not killing him would be a positive, one still would make a sacrifice by shooting.

Good point.

In response to A sense of logic
Comment author: drhaft 14 December 2010 01:16:44PM 4 points [-]

I am not sure if this counts as an argument per se, but several works of fiction have had instances where a time machine moves a small amount into the future, (say 1 second), and always travels to 1 second ahead of the protagonist, and thus is invisible. Wouldn't this just give the protagonist a 1 second head start against the villain?

At a time of t=5, both would be visible and present, but the protagonist would have 5 seconds of action time, but the "clever" villain would only have had 4 seconds.

Comment author: drhaft 14 December 2010 01:13:00PM 1 point [-]

I have wondered a similar thing about the real-life efficacy of bribery.

Comment author: khafra 29 November 2010 03:10:25PM *  3 points [-]

Yes. For some reason, I consistently add an "er."

Edit: as I understand The Strategy of Conflict, a threat is a conditional promise which will make the both parties worse off, if carried out.

Comment author: drhaft 14 December 2010 01:09:20PM 0 points [-]

I was trying to find a counterexample to the "both parties worse off" part of that definition, but now I believe it is correct. Even in what at first appear to only harm one party, such as blackmail, if carried out, the blackmailer spent his bargaining chip.

However, what about cases such as "If you continue to approach me, I'll shoot"? What is the damage done to the shooting party? Assuming no legal retribution and no moral guilt, no loss of respect in the eyes of others, then is his loss the loss of amunition?