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Comment author: Desrtopa 13 February 2013 06:42:12AM 7 points [-]

Existence exists; Only existence exists. We exist with a consciousness: Existence is identity: Identification is consciousness.

This seems like a tremendously unhelpful attempt at definition, and it doesn't really get better from there. It seems as if it's written more to optimize for sounding Deep than for making any concepts understandable to people who don't already grasp them.

The only solution is copious dialog, to confirm that what was intended is that which was understood.

The necessary amounts of dialogue are a great deal less copious if one does a good job being clear in the first place.

Comment author: elriel 08 April 2015 06:11:29PM 0 points [-]

This seems like a tremendously unhelpful attempt at definition, and it doesn't really get better from there. It >seems as if it's written more to optimize for sounding Deep than for making any concepts understandable to >people who don't already grasp them.

There probably isn't any one single way of defining this in a way that is understandable by everyone. That being said, being able to make the distinction between direct experience and concepts is very useful and epistemology has helped many people with this, so I'd say there is value in it.

Comment author: Richard_Pointer 16 March 2007 08:22:08PM 1 point [-]

I think the fictional evidence misses a key factor in raising kids. At least for some people the continuation of a line, that line either being blood or values. I think most soon to be parents don't look forward to the nasty sleepless evenings with newborns or such. But give the availability of abortion, we still do not see L'Dolce Vita culling all humans from the reproducing herds.

People do enjoy long term endeavors. I find the idea that my line will stretch far into the future to be a very good driver in my quest for higher education and wealth attainment. Delaying my own gratification is an integral part of that quest. I, in fact, hope to lay down a family "constitution" to instill my values on my children's children. If I am going to give them wealth they better damn build an empire with it.

Comment author: elriel 28 March 2015 11:04:49PM 0 points [-]

Whether the fictional evidence actually misses that factor or not, I can't say. However, the fact that the text mentioned that the extermination was for biological homo sapiens leads me to think that those artificial kids weren't supposed to be just substitutes for emotional purposes but could actually act as full member of your family. That is, you wouldn't consider them pets or slaves, but family.